Good afternoon. Welcome to our press conference. I am joined on stage by President Lagarde and Vice President Vujčić. My name is Wolfgang Proissl. I also welcome the journalists who are following us online. If they ask a question, I would ask them to turn on their cameras and put on their microphones. With that, I would like to hand over to President Lagarde, please. Well, thank you very much, Wolfgang, and good afternoon to all of you. The Vice President, our new Vice President, and I welcome you to our press conference. The Governing Council is committed to setting monetary policy to ensure that inflation stabilizes at our 2% target in the medium term. In line with this commitment, we today decided to raise the three key ECB interest rates by 25 basis points. The war in the Middle East is generating inflation pressures. The decision to raise rates is robust across a range of scenarios, mapping out how the shock might evolve and affect the medium-term outlook for the euro area. In the baseline of the new Eurosystem staff projections, headline inflation is expected to average 3% in 2026, 2.3% in 2027, and 2% in 2028. For inflation excluding energy and food, the baseline foresees an average of 2.5% in 2026 and 2027, and 2.2% in 2028. Compared with March, staff have revised up their baseline projection for inflation in 2026 and 2027 owing to a higher path for energy prices, which to some extent is expected to feed into food, goods, and services inflation. The baseline sees economic growth at an average of 0.8% in 2026, 1.2% in 2027, and 1.5% in 2028. This is a downward revision for 2026 and 2027, reflecting a more pronounced impact of the war on commodity markets, real incomes, and also confidence. The outlook remains uncertain, with upside risks for inflation and downside risks for economic growth. The full implication of the war for medium-term inflation and growth will depend on the intensity and duration of the energy price shock, as well as the scale of its indirect and second-round effects. This uncertainty is also reflected in the broad range of outcomes for inflation and growth in the updated illustrative scenarios put together by Eurosystem staff. These will be published with the staff projections on our website. With today's decision, we remain well-positioned to navigate the uncertainty caused by the war. We will closely monitor the situation and follow a data-dependent and meeting-by-meeting approach to determining the appropriate monetary policy stance. In particular, our interest rate decisions will be based on our assessment of inflation outlook and the risks surrounding it in light of the incoming economic and financial data, as well as the dynamics of underlying inflation and the strength of monetary policy transmission. We are not pre-committing to a particular rate path. The decisions taken today are set out in a press release available on our website. I will now outline in more detail how we see the economy and inflation developing, and will then explain our assessment of financial and monetary conditions. Let me first look at the economic activity. Adjusting for a temporary factor in Ireland, the euro area economy grew in the first quarter, supported by domestic demand and exports. The war in the Middle East is weighing on activity, and surveys are pointing to a slowdown, especially in services. Manufacturing has held up so far. In part, this is because firms have been building up stocks to cope with supply chain pressures. It also reflects higher defense spending. The labor market remains resilient. Unemployment at 6.3% in April remains close to historical lows. The first quarter saw additional jobs being created, although at a slower pace than in the last quarter in 2025. Labor demand has cooled further, and firms and households expect the labor market to weaken. Looking ahead, staff now expect domestic demand to be weaker than they projected in March as the war weighs on confidence and higher energy costs erode real incomes. At the same time, household balance sheets are solid overall, and consumption should remain the main driver of growth. Higher energy costs and lower confidence will dent private investment in the short run. It should be underpinned by firms investing in new digital technologies. Government spending more on defense and infrastructure should continue to support public investments. These factors are expected to provide some cushioning against the fallout from the war. The Governing Council highlights the urgent need to strengthen the euro area economy while maintaining sound public finances. Fiscal sustainability is a crucial anchor for broader economic stability. Fiscal responses to the energy price shock should be temporary, targeted, and tailored, as emphasized in the European Commission 2026 European Semester Spring Package. Reforms to enhance the euro area's growth potential and accelerate the energy transition to reduce reliance on fossil fuels are more vital than ever. Completing the savings and investment union is key to funding innovation, supporting the green and digital transition, and improving productivity. The digital euro and tokenized wholesale central bank money will enhance Europe's strategic autonomy, competitiveness, and financial integration, and will boost innovation in payments. It is thus essential to swiftly adopt the Regulation on the establishment of the digital euro. Simplifying and harmonizing rules across the EU Single Market will help European firms grow faster. Let me now look at inflation. Inflation rose to 3.2% in May from 3% in April. Energy price inflation ticked up to 10.9% in April, while food price inflation fell from 2.4% to 2%. Inflation excluding energy and food picked up to 2.5% from 2.2% in April, as goods inflation edged up to 0.9% and services inflation increased from 3% to 3.5%. Domestic cost pressures eased in the first quarter, supported by slower growth in wages and profits. The ECB's wage tracker and surveys on wage expectations continue to indicate that wage growth should ease over the year. However, it is becoming more expensive for firms to source other inputs, and they therefore expect to put up their selling prices. Moreover, some indicators of underlying inflation have already been driven higher by the energy shock. Inflation expectations over shorter horizons remain well above levels before the outbreak of the war in the Middle East. At the same time, most measures of longer-term inflation expectations stand at around 2%, supporting the stabilization of inflation around target in the medium term. The increase in energy prices will lift inflation further over the summer and keep it well above target into the first half of 2027. It will also have an impact on food, goods, and services inflation. Inflation should then return to target in the second half of 2027, supported by falling energy prices and slower increases in other prices. However, the war in the Middle East remains a major source of uncertainty, and the longer energy prices stay high, the more likely they are to drive up broader inflation through indirect and second-round effects. We will therefore closely monitor the size and persistence of the energy price increase and how it feeds through to price and wage setting, inflation expectations, and overall economic dynamics. Turning now to the risk assessment. The risks to the growth outlook are to the downside, mainly owing to the war in the Middle East, which has added to the volatile global policy environment. Prolonged disruption of energy supplies could increase energy prices further and for longer than currently expected. These factors would erode real incomes even more and make firms and households more reluctant to invest and spend. The drag on growth would intensify if the closure of major shipping routes were to cause acute shortages of key inputs that forced euro area firms to curtail output. A worsening of global financial market sentiment or a tighter supply of credit could dampen demand. Additional frictions in international trade could also further disrupt supply chain, reduce exports, and weaken consumption and investment. Other geopolitical tensions, in particular, Russia's unjustified war against Ukraine, remain a major source of uncertainty. By contrast, growth could turn out to be higher if the economy and energy markets were to adapt more quickly than expected to the disruption caused by the war in the Middle East, or if the war was resolved promptly and sustainably. Moreover, planned defense and infrastructure spending reforms to enhance productivity and the euro area firms adopting new technologies may drive up growth by more than expected. A deeper integration of the Single Market would also boost growth beyond current expectations. The risks now to the inflation outlook are to the upside. If energy prices were to rise by more and for longer than currently expected, euro area inflation would increase further. This could be reinforced and become more persistent if higher energy prices were to spill over by more than expected to other prices and to wages, if longer-term inflation expectations were to rise in response, or if global supply chains were disrupted more broadly. Ongoing trade tensions could also give rise to more fragmented global supply chains, curtail the supply of critical raw materials, and worsen capacity constraints in the euro area economy. Extreme weather events and the unfolding climate and nature crisis more broadly could drive up food prices by more than expected. By contrast, inflation could turn out to be somewhat lower if the economic effects of the war in the Middle East prove to be more short-lived than currently expected, or if indirect or second-round effects prove less pronounced than anticipated. More volatile and risk-averse financial markets could weigh on demand and thereby lower inflation as well. Looking now at the financial and monetary conditions. Financial conditions are broadly unchanged since our last meeting but remain tighter than before the war. The cost of issuing market-based debt rose to 4% in April from 3.9% in March. Bank lending rates for firms remained at 3.6% in April, and mortgage rates at 3.4%. The annual growth rate of bank lending to firms increased to 3.4% in April from 3.2% in March, while the growth rate of corporate bond issuance rose to 4.6%. Mortgage lending in April again grew by 3%. In line with our monetary policy strategy, the Governing Council thoroughly assessed the links between monetary policy and financial stability. Euro area banks are resilient, supported by strong capital and liquidity ratios, solid asset quality, and robust profitability. However, a sudden sharp drop in asset prices, potentially amplified by the non-bank financial sector and deteriorating asset quality, particularly in energy and trade-sensitive sectors, would pose risks to financial stability. These risks increase the longer the current geopolitical conflict lasts. Macroprudential policy remains the first line of defense against the buildup of financial vulnerabilities, enhancing resilience, and preserving macroprudential space. In conclusion, the Governing Council today decided to raise the three key ECB interest rates by 25 basis points. We are committed to setting monetary policy to ensure that inflation stabilizes at our 2% target in the medium term. We will follow a data-dependent and meeting-by-meeting approach to determining the appropriate monetary policy stance. Our interest rate decisions will be based on our assessment of the inflation outlook and the risks surrounding it in light of the incoming economic and financial data, as well as the dynamics of underlying inflation and the strength of monetary policy transmission. We are not pre-committing to a particular rate path. In any case, we stand ready to adjust all of our instruments within our mandate to ensure that inflation stabilizes sustainably at our medium-term target and to preserve the smooth functioning of monetary policy transmission. We now stand ready to take your questions. First question today goes to Balazs Koranyi of Reuters. Balazs, please. Good afternoon. First off, allow me to say a big hello to the newest member of the trio on stage. Welcome, Boris. President Lagarde, could you give us a flavor of the debate today? Were other options discussed, perhaps a hold, perhaps a larger increase? What were the arguments put forth in the discussion? The second question is about your reaction function. I am curious how many more rate increases are embedded into the staff projections. What do you need to see to deliver on those? Will you have that sort of volume and quality of data available to you by July to make an informed decision? Thank you very much for your question, and thank you for greeting the three of us, and particularly Boris, our new Vice-President. The decision that we took today to raise by 25 basis points our three interest rates was a unanimous decision, without reservation. We did not discuss or debate any other alternative proposal. The one that was predicated on the Eurosystem staff projections and the recommendations of our chief economist was unanimously endorsed. No discussion of others. Our reaction function has been very steady, repeated over the course of time. I hope I will not offend you by repeating yet again that given the level of uncertainty that we are facing, we will decide on a meeting-by-meeting basis. We will be data dependent. There will be no preset rate path in our considerations. As a result of that, it will be what it will be. This is not much by way of forward guidance, but as you know, under the present circumstances, there is no such justification for the decision that we are making and that we will make in the future. I think I would add one thing, because I have read here and there that, "Oh, the ECB will make an insurance decision. It will be an insurance matter. It will be a preemptive rate decision." It is not at all the way we had our discussion, really. Our discussion were predicated on, obviously, the major energy shock that we have observed since the beginning of March that is enduring longer than what was expected by geopolitical experts, which we are beginning to see broadening throughout the economy, with direct cost being obvious, with indirect cost also showing up. As I said, we will be monitoring attentively any further consequences of this major energy shock. Second response in relation to this insurance allegation of ours, which it was not. We have updated our scenarios. If you remember from last time around, we had two scenarios, which we published. We will be publishing a third scenario that will be available on our website, which we have decided to call the milder scenario. Staff from the Eurosystem has worked on the update of the adverse and the severe scenarios, but they have also worked on a milder scenario in order to be on both sides of the baseline. The decision that we took today to increase by 25 basis points all our interest rates is robust across the three scenarios. The two updated adverse and severe, also the milder scenario, which obviously is more positive and something that we should not neglect, which is at this point in time, unlikely to materialize. We still thought that it was our duty to look at both sides. On all accounts, our decision stands. If we were not taking that very obvious monetary policy decision, then at the end of the medium term that we look out for projection purposes, we would be north of our target. I hope I have covered your question. Next question to Annette Weisbach of CNBC. Annette, please. Thank you very much. President Lagarde, I have two questions, obviously. I would like to ask you about the recent uptick in core inflation. We have seen that service prices are on the rise. Is that, in your opinion, already a sign that we are seeing first signs of second-round effects? My second question would be, where are we in between all these scenarios? Are we closer in the adverse camp? Are we approaching the severe camp? What's the opinion of the ECB? Thank you very much. On the services inflation, as you will have seen, it has moved from 3% to 3.5%, which is a significant increase. Obviously, what we need to understand better is what is under the skin of that increase and how we can distinguish between what is the direct and indirect consequence of the energy prices' significant increase. Or whether there is something else. At this point in time, we cannot yet say whether this service price's significant increase is attributable exclusively to direct and indirect. What we are confident in, though, is that we are not seeing yet second-round effect, which would be largely attributable to wages, which play a significant contribution in the production of services. I'm saying again that we will be monitoring closely all that in the months to come. You ask me where we stand, I just want to take you back to a speech that I gave back in March, which I know you've been following. It was my speech to the ECB Watchers. In March at the ECB Watchers conference, I distinguished between three different situations, which are an analytical frame in and of itself, if you will. I'm not going to consider that one is exactly scenario X, Y, or Z. I said, first of all, if the shock is limited and short-lived, it's a case where we see through. Obviously, we do not find ourselves in this situation because we have decided, we think that it's a monetary policy that stands firmly on its own and that is robust across all scenarios. We are not in that sort of let's see through, is going to be short-lived and small. The second situation that I referred to is the situation where the shock produces a large, though not too persistent, overshoot, in which case a measured adjustment of policy is needed. Okay. The third case that I referred to in that ECB Watchers speech is the situation where we expect inflation to deviate significantly and durably from target, in which case the response must be appropriately forceful. I leave it to you to decide which of the three. I've already eliminated case number one, which is clearly not a situation where it's short-lived and rather small. This is not the case. The decision we've made is not a forceful decision either, right. 25 basis points is a decision which clearly is a signal, and is necessary given the economic situation that we have, given the uncertainty that we are navigating, given the inflation outlook that we have, and the projections that have been produced by the Eurosystem staff. Next question, Alex Weber of Bloomberg News. Alex, please. Good afternoon. Thanks very much. On the sort of measured adjustment that you might be doing, does the neutral range- That's what I said. You concluded that. Yeah. Does the neutral range play a role in your thinking in that regard? Is 2.5% for the deposit rate an important threshold, or could a measured adjustment also mean a slight step into restrictive territory? Secondly, before today, there were quite a few economists who've warned that a rate hike in the current environment would be a mistake. Did you reflect on these comments, and what's your response to this? To the risk of disappointing you, we have not discussed the neutral rate, nor the range of neutral rate. As you know, there is a lot of work that has been done by staff in that respect, which have given a range within which the neutral rate would be located. Philip Lane has discussed that extensively in a speech recently. We have not debated our positioning with reference to the neutral rate, which I'll remind you, is a bit difficult to actually assess precisely because we are not in a situation where there are no shocks, which is typically what you need to have as sort of an environment within which you determine where you are neutral because you don't stimulate, you don't restrict. This was not debated at all by the Governing Council. Everybody has to do what they have to do. Our job is price stability. Our job is to apply the strategic review principles that we have agreed. Our job is to follow carefully the reaction function that you are all familiar with, and that we try to be as transparent about as possible so that we are predictable. In the face of that, frankly, given the numbers we have, given the inflation outlook, given the risk to the upside on inflation, given the robustness of the decision against and across all scenarios, the bad one, the very bad one, and the not so bad one, and the fact that it holds in all circumstances. If you add to that the fact that our growth forecast as revised is 0.8%, -0.1 relative to March, 1.2 next year, and 1.5 the following year, it's not as if we are in an environment where growth is absent or under significant threat. A lot more can be done by structural reforms, by encouraging a European market that has no obstacles to trade, savings and investment union, and so on and so forth. We encourage that very strongly in our monetary policy statement. Thank you. Now, Aude Kersulec of BFM Business. Aude, please. Thank you for taking my questions. In the last meeting's minutes, some members mentioned the need for the ECB to avoid being perceived as complacent. Could you elaborate on this? I wonder if today's decision is driven by communication or credibility purpose rather than by inflation expectation becoming unanchored. Secondly, your press release states that today's decision is robust across a range of scenarios. Why use this word today, and does it mean that you have a clearer view of where rates are heading? Thank you. Thank you very much for your two questions. One is, of course, we should not be complacent. I think that's a recurrent principle that we should always apply, as we should apply the principles of being data-dependent, being analytical, and rigorous about the analysis that we do of all the numbers that we receive. This is what the Eurosystem staff has done, and this is what will be done going forward by the ECB staff when they produce the next projections. It's not an issue of complacency. Honestly, I don't like to brag, and I'm not full of vanity, but I would hasten to add that having maintained inflation pretty much at target over the last 12 months, we have not been complacent. We have done our job and we will continue doing so. On your second question, the characterization of robustness of the decision is obviously helpful when you do scenarios across the board. If we had done adverse and severe scenario, and then decided it was robust, yeah, of course, it is robust. We decided on purpose to do scenarios on both sides of the baseline. Even in the milder scenario, the 25 basis points cuts is completely warranted and justified. This is what we've done. Now Olaf Storbeck of the Financial Times. Olaf, please. Hi, I have one question on the inflation forecast. What struck my eye when I compared the current baseline with the March adverse scenario, the headline inflation is lower than in the adverse scenario, but the core inflation is higher for 2026. Does this mean that spillover effects are already bigger than you anticipated in March? What are driving them? My second question is, you clearly said the rate hike isn't an insurance hike. What is it then? Is it the start of a new hiking cycle or what else? Thanks. Well, thank you very much for your two questions. With reference to the baseline, first of all, I have not compared and we have not gone into the exercise of comparing the baseline with the adverse or the severe scenario at this point in time. We have updated our baseline both on the account of inflation and on the account of growth as well, with the caveat of Ireland, which is a case in point of international companies organizing their business in such a way that it impacts, in an interesting way, the Irish numbers. What we have done is that we've updated the baseline, and I think the best thing that can be done is to compare the adverse scenario prepared in March with the adverse scenario compared with June. I think that is more relevant than baseline versus last time around adverse. As I told you in the earlier phase of our discussions today, we are beginning to see a broadening of inflation throughout the economy. That is obviously in terms of direct effect, but also in terms of indirect effect. Not yet at this point in the front of the second-round effects, but we are going to be extremely attentive. When we see, for instance, that the delivery dates, that the smoothness of supply is beginning to be impaired, obviously we will be attentive to those sort of ancillary indicators that would help us understand where it is heading. One more point, because I did speak about wages earlier. We do include a level of second-round effect in our projections, obviously. The projections that we have for the three years, actually, 2026, 2027, 2028, all anticipate compensation per employee at 3.2%, which in and of itself, if you compare that with the projection that we have on inflation, justifies the fact that the net income of workers will actually be positive and would lead to assume that consumption not only will continue to be the main driver of growth as it is, but will continue to grow probably more than other factors. We see other factors to fuel growth going forward. Now, yes, I did say that it's not an insurance policy interest rates decision, simply because it's a good monetary policy interest rate decision. When you have the latest reading at 3.2%, when you have the inflation outlook over our target, peaking in the end of 2026, continuing to be over target throughout most of 2027, returning to 2% in the autumn of 2027, and being at target in 2028 on the basis of market curves and all the rest of it is pretty obvious that we have to make a decision, that it is a sensible monetary policy decision. I don't need to characterize it as credibility, insurance, or anything else for that matter. It's a monetary policy decision that stands, and that is, as we say in the monetary policy statement, robust across all scenarios, including the mild one. Moving to the other side of the room, Marina Ninković. No, I'm sorry, Marina Ninković of the Croatian Broadcaster. Oh, welcome. Thank you. Hello. I have a question for Madame Lagarde. Croatia is one of the newest members of the Eurozone, yet for many months it continues to experience rather high inflation rate, way above the EU average. What do you have to say to the citizens that are concerned about this? Thank you. Well, thank you very much to your question. We are of course delighted that Croatia is a member of the euro area, and I and all Governing Council members and members of the Executive Board are delighted to have the Croatian National Bank, I was going to say former governor, being now a member of the Executive Board and the new Vice-President of the ECB. It's a great representation, and it brings diversity amongst the group, and it's really a blessing that Boris has joined us. Turning to inflation, of course, we're concerned about inflation. We are not just concerned about inflation in one member state or the other because our job at the ECB is to look at the whole of the euro area. Our concern, as I said earlier on, is that we see the energy price inflation, 10.9% at the moment, broadening throughout the economy, which is why we are making this decision today. Broadening inflation outlook, underlying inflation, all of that point in the direction of having to make a decision of increasing interest rates. Because our mission, our mandate, is to restore price stability, we make those decisions, and we are driven by that objective, price stability. Thank you. Next question goes to Klaus-Rainer Jackisch of the German broadcaster HR. Good afternoon. Mrs. President, given some of the statements of members of the Governing Council previous to this meeting, one could have expected that the projections for the inflation is much higher. Can you give us a little bit of a flavor how serious this inflation crisis is actually, perhaps compared to previous ones? The second question, as you know, there's already a lot of criticism despite this very moderate rate hike, especially by the unions who fear that growth could be dampened even further. What do you say to them? Thank you very much. Well, thank you very much. As I said, our mission, our mandate, is price stability. We have defined price stability for our strategic review and our purpose of making decisions at 2% in the medium term. When you see inflation picking up in the way it does, broadening throughout the economy, when you see inflation outlook north of that 2% target and only returning to 2% at the end of our projection horizon, when you see risk to the upside, to us, this is inflation that needs to be taken into account and that needs to be addressed. I do not know what other governors in whatever publication or interviews you refer to allege that it would be higher inflation, but we do have inflation that is too high for our citizens, that is too high for the purpose of price stability as well, and we will address that because our commitment is price stability. Your second question was about the risk resulting from this decision. First of all, I would observe that the main risk would be not to take that kind of decision, because if you let inflation start running out without control, then it becomes a much more difficult situation to bring it back to the level of price stability that we have defined. The good decision was actually to raise interest rates, to commit and to deliver on price stability so that people will make their investment decision, their employment decision, their wage negotiations decisions in the light of that commitment to restore price stability as we will. Now Elisa Piazza of Class CNBC, Italian broadcaster. Thank you for taking my question. Well, you do not say anymore in your statement that longer-term inflation expectations remain well anchored. If you could tell us a little bit more about this change, then I have another question on another topic, because we know that the ECB has convened banks to discuss the risks associated with the new AI models such as Mistral. What actions is the ECB taking on this issue? Do you consider these models to pose a potential systemic risk to the European banking sector? Thank you. Thank you so much for your two questions. In terms of inflation expectations, we look at three categories of expectations. We look at market-based measures, we look at survey-based measures, and we look at consumers' expectations. We try to understand exactly where those expectations stand between the short term and the medium term that is relevant for our monetary policy decisions. What we see at the moment is short-term inflation expectations that have risen in all three categories, more so from the consumers because that is typically the case. When you look at the longer-term expectations, they are broadly anchored at our 2%. Whether you look at one in one, five in five, one in five, you have the whole category of intervals to look at. On all those accounts, inflation expectations are broadly anchored. You asked me about the, I will call it artificial intelligence at large, but it's clearly the most recent development of artificial intelligence, whether it's by Anthropic or by OpenAI or by other major developers and investors in artificial intelligence, or whether it's from other countries. We are seeing significantly new, faster, more intrusive developments. That is a fact. We also know that these developments are here to stay, and that there will continue to be more in the coming months, and probably on an ongoing basis. That calls for two categories of responses. One that addresses our own central bank. Are we at the ECB and other national central banks around in the Eurosystem well-equipped to actually resist potential intrusion, potential hacking, potential negative intrusion that would be using those tools? This is work that is underway, and this is one that we take very seriously because obviously we are a central part of the financial world. The second, which is more under the remit of the SSM, has to do with how we help flag, call the attention of all the banks that we supervise to make sure that they too, and I know that they do, but that they too pay particular attention in order to protect themselves and make sure that possible intrusion that operate at a fast pace are not going to hurt them. I think everybody is looking at this very carefully. We do not all have access to the latest tools of some of those developers that I have mentioned. There are ways, not necessarily using the ultimate state-of-the-art and latest version, but there are ways to actually protect ourselves, do the necessary patching, and make sure that we are as secure as possible. All of that is taking place. That's one category. I think there is another category that is worth discussing, which has to do with how governments, how sovereigns, actually respond to these risks, of which I think we are seeing maybe the top of the iceberg, and for which more significant risk should be anticipated and possibly joint framework, joint governance should be discussed at a higher level. For the moment, at our limited level as a central bank, we do what we can in response to these developments that are here to stay. Thank you. Last question today goes to Arturo Lopo of the Spanish broadcaster RTVE. Arturo, please. Thank you for taking my question. Mrs. Lagarde, what would you need to happen to make today's rate hike decision to reverse? What if under these current circumstances of massive uncertainty, how much time do the ECB or the Governing Council will need to discuss or to consider reversing this rate hike? As a second question, in this case, you have talk about this is not an insurance rate hike. This is not a cycle, this is not the beginning of a cycle, at the same time, which are the other components that could play a bigger role on pushing up the floor of the interest rates in the Eurozone? Which is the future good place to be that you have been talking about in the future? The previous 2%, under these circumstances, which is the new 2% in interest rates here in the Eurozone? Thank you. If you look at our monetary policy statement, we say very specifically that with this 25 basis point increase of interest rates, we are well-positioned to navigate the uncertainty and the developments going forward. That stands very clearly in the MPS. As to the rest, we will be deciding meeting by meeting. We will be data dependent. We will have no preset, predetermined rate path going forward. That's the way we will be operating. Thank you. Thank you very much. That closes our press conference. We will be back here on the 23rd of July, until then, all the best and have a good afternoon.