Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Air Transport Services Group fourth quarter 2022 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there'll be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I would like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Joe Payne, Chief Legal Officer. Please go ahead. Good morning, and welcome to our fourth quarter of 2022 earnings conference call. We issued our earnings release yesterday after the market closed. It's on our website, atsginc.com. Let me begin by advising you that during the course of this call, we will make projections and other forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Our actual results and other future events may differ materially from those we describe here. These forward-looking statements are based on information, plans, and estimates as of the date of this call. Air Transport Services Group undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect changes in underlying assumptions, factors, new information, or other changes. These factors include, but are not limited to unplanned changes in the market demand for our assets and services, our operating airline's ability to maintain on-time service and control costs. The cost and timing with respect to which we are able to purchase and modify aircraft to a cargo configuration. Fluctuations in ATSG's traded share price and in interest rates, which may result in mark-to-market charges on certain financial instruments. The number, timing, and scheduled routes of our aircraft deployments to customers. Our ability to remain in compliance with key agreements with customers, lenders, and government agencies. The impact of current supply chain constraints, both within and outside the U.S., which may be more severe or persist longer than we currently expect. The impact of the current competitive labor market. Changes in general economic and/or industry-specific conditions. Factors relating to the COVID-19 pandemic, including that the pandemic may continue for a longer period or its effect on commercial and military passenger flying may be more substantial than we currently expect. Disruptions in our workforce and staffing capability. Disruptions in our ability to access airports and maintenance facilities or adversely impact our customers' creditworthiness and the continuing ability of our vendors and third-party service providers to maintain customary service levels. Other factors as contained from time to time in our filings with the SEC, including the Form 10-K we will file next week. We will also refer to non-GAAP financial measures from continuing operations, including adjusted earnings, adjusted earnings per share, adjusted pre-tax earnings, Adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted cash flow. Management believes these metrics are useful to investors in assessing ATSG's financial position and results. These non-GAAP measures are not meant to be a substitute for our GAAP financials. We advise you to refer to the reconciliations to GAAP measures, which are included in our earnings release and on our website. Now I'll turn the call over to Rich Corrado, our President and CEO, for his opening comments. Thanks, Joe. Good morning, everyone. 2022 was an exceptional year for ATSG. Even with rapid inflation and delays at our 767 freighter conversion vendor, your company still exceeded its 2022 financial goals of $640 million in Adjusted EBITDA and $2 in adjusted EPS. We also began to invest in new freighter platforms from the Airbus family while maintaining our leadership in Boeing 767 freighter leasing. I am very proud of the excellent planning and execution throughout the company that drove our considerable success. Many of those efforts are playing into our outlook for 2023. Despite some headwinds, we expect more Adjusted EBITDA growth and accelerated growth in 2024 and later years. I'll be back to share more of that perspective after Quint reviews our financial results for 2022. Quint? Thanks, Rich, and welcome to everyone on the call this morning. The next slide in our deck summarizes the strong 2022 results that Rich highlighted. Our consolidated revenues for 2022 grew $311 million to $2 billion, another all-time high for revenues at ATSG. Our adjusted EPS increased by more than 40% to $2.28 compared with $1.61 in 2021. That was well above the $2 target we set a year ago. Adjusted pre-tax earnings increased 51% and Adjusted EBITDA rose 18%. Earnings from our airline businesses, along with the momentum of our leasing returns from CAM, produced most of the EPS gain above our target. We are projecting lower EPS for 2023, as Rich will discuss in his remarks, mainly because of increased interest expense on our current fleet additions and inflation effects, particularly in our ACMI services segment. On the next slide, you can see that versus the 12 months ended in December 2021, our Adjusted EBITDA grew a record $100 million or 18% in 2022. That improvement includes a full year of cash flows from the 15 newly converted 767 freighters we deployed in 2021 and more than doubling our earnings from ACMI services. For Adjusted EBITDA, we exclude, among other items, the changes in values of our financial instruments and the benefits of federal pandemic relief assistance for our passenger operations under the Payroll Support Programs for the 2021 periods. On the next slide, you'll see that our capital spending finished the year at just under $600 million, $25 million less than we projected last quarter. We separate what we call sustaining CapEx, mainly for airframe and engine maintenance, technology and other equipment from the spending we allocate to fleet expansion. Sustaining CapEx was $187 million for the year, up $4 million. Growth CapEx was $412 million, up $90 million from the prior year, both to convert existing aircraft to freighters and to buy more feedstock passenger aircraft. In 2022, those purchases included eight Boeing 767s and six Airbus A321s. We deployed and leased six newly converted 767 freighters last year. Turnaround times at many passenger to freighter aircraft conversion houses remain well above pre-pandemic levels, despite their efforts to increase throughput. We expect those bottlenecks to lessen this year. The next slide updates our adjusted free cash flow as measured by our operating cash flow net of our sustaining CapEx. Adjusted free cash flow of $285 million last year was down $115 million from the year earlier period, and down $88 million for the 12 months ended last September. Cash flows from federal grants in 2021 were $83 million. All of that cash was received in the first half. Our full year 2022 results reflect the impact of a temporary fourth quarter increase in working capital related to reimbursement of fuel costs from Omni's federal government customers. We project our growth capital investments to exceed adjusted free cash flows until 2025, when we expect that trend to reverse. Through 2024, we expect our debt leverage ratio to remain under three times and begin to decline in 2025. You may have already seen the 2023 guidance we provided in the earnings release we issued yesterday. Rich will cover some of the factors that will affect our earnings and cash flow in his remarks. I wanted to provide some color around the significant increase in our CapEx budget of $850 million this year, and the strategic decisions and steps that prepared the way for our growth investments in 2023 and 2024. The bulk of our CapEx this year and in 2024 will continue to fund the expansion of our leased 767 fleet. The other major driver of our stepped up growth in spending over the next several years is our decision to begin offering our lease customers two other freighter types: the Airbus A321, a narrow-body mid-size freighter designed to replace retiring Boeing 757s, and the A330, a wide-body mid-size freighter that will complement our still expanding fleet of 767s. We started this freighter platform expansion from a strong financial position. Through 2022, our debt to Adjusted EBITDA ratio, as calculated under our bank agreement, was below two times and well below our average over the last several years. We also acted in 2020 and 2021 to lock in favorable fixed rates by issuing seven-year unsecured notes at a 4.75% coupon rate, and amended our senior credit facility to increase our borrowing capacity, free up some collateral, and accommodate the resumption of our stock repurchase program. Available credit under our revolver was $365 million at the end of 2022, with an option for additional capacity subject to bank approvals. To coincide with our increased business with airlines in Europe and Asia, we intend to establish a similar $100 million credit facility in Ireland in the next few days. When our fleet development program is at its peak in 2024 and lease revenues from Airbus fleet additions are just beginning, we project that our leverage ratio will still remain less than three times. After that, we expect to begin delevering in 2025. I also wanna note that even with higher CapEx spending, we have the liquidity and cash flow visibility to continue to accommodate opportunistic share repurchases under the $150 million facility the board created last fall. As we noted in our release, we repurchased 2 million shares, or about 3% of those outstanding, during the fourth quarter after pandemic grant restrictions on our repurchases expired. With that summary of our financial and operating results, I'll turn it back to Rich for some comments on our operations and outlook. Rich? Thanks, Quint. The earnings release we issued yesterday listed some key 2022 operating accomplishments that contributed to the financial results that Quint just reviewed. Let me highlight them and share some additional color to give you more insight about how well we performed last year. Overall, we added 13 767 freighters in 2022, six of which were CAM-owned and leased to third-party customers. CAM also re-leased one 767-200 and extended leases on four other 200s. Two of the six newly converted 767-300 freighters leased last year are also being operated by ATSG's airlines under crew maintenance and insurance agreements. We also added seven other 767-300s to our fleet under asset light CMI arrangements. Those were assigned to our airlines by customers who obtained them elsewhere, chose our airlines, ABX Air and ATI, to fly them. They joined six others we were already operating on the same basis. We expect our customers to assign us three more in 2023. These decisions by our customers attest to their confidence in the airline services that we provide. Our original 2022 plan called for more freighter leases, but both vendor and regulatory issues prevented us from reaching our targets. Our principal 767 conversion vendor, IAI, continues to add conversion capacity, but throughput times remain well behind pre-pandemic levels. Anticipating delays, we decided to book several conversion slots with Boeing in 2021 and added more in 2022. Boeing will convert four of the 767-300s we expect to deploy this year. We believe that a combination of additional slots and faster throughput will allow us to meet our 2023 fleet expansion goals. Another challenge is gaining approvals from the regulatory agencies to put our converted A321-200 freighters into service. Three of the six A321s that CAM intends to lease this year, including CAM's first two to ASL Aviation in Ireland, are ready to go with regulatory approval. We expect that to happen by mid-year. To prepare for our step-up in fleet investment starting this year, CAM was active in the feedstock market in 2022. Through purchases and other commitments, CAM now controls all of the passenger aircraft it requires for our anticipated 20 freighter leases in 2023, and nearly all of those that we'll lease in 2024. Please go to the next slide. Quint noted that the scale of our fleet investments will be much larger over the next few years, that we have the financial backing to complete them. To those who might be concerned about whether customers will be ready to make long-term lease commitments for those aircraft as they complete conversion, it's important to understand that the surge in U.S. e-commerce activity that preceded and soared during the pandemic is only now beginning to surge in other parts of the world. The e-commerce portion of retail sales is still growing rapidly elsewhere, including Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, and Latin America as air networks expand. Accordingly, more than 80% of CAM's leased freighter deployments over the next several years will be to airlines operating outside North America, and many of them will operate in networks established by DHL and other integrators who lease our freighters themselves, but where rules limit where they can operate directly. Turning to our airlines, some of the continuing growth in e-commerce fulfillment in the U.S. last year led to expansions of their fleets and more operating block hours. ABX Air and ATI added 9 767 freighters, including seven assigned to them. Block hours of flying for all three airlines increased 8%, with a 9% increase in cargo operations and a 4% gain in passenger operations. Even with one fewer 767 in its fleet, Omni still completed a strong schedule of passenger airline missions for government customers. The Department of Defense restored our full combi schedule, including our longest route in the fourth quarter. We are also proud to note that a year ago, DHL agreed once again to extend and expand the long-standing commercial relationship we've enjoyed with them since the inception of ATSG as an independent public company in 2003. The agreement extended our airline service in support of DHL's U.S. Express network for six years and included the lease of three more 767-300 freighters from CAM. Our deployment schedules include still more 767s plus some A330s for DHL's global network. Please go on to the next slide. Those were a few of the operating and commercial successes that helped us generate record revenues, Adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS in 2022, and will contribute to our results for several years to come. In 2023, ATSG expects to generate between $650 million and $660 million in Adjusted EBITDA and between $1.85 and $2.00 in adjusted earnings per share. Those targets reflect a record pace of 20 freighter lease deployments I mentioned a moment ago, and which we announced to the market on February 6th. Four of the international companies we will lease freighters to in 2023 and 2024 are new customers, supporting Air Express networks in other regions. Several years ago, we began to expand our sales and marketing outreach to customers where e-commerce is just beginning to take hold, and those efforts are paying off in record demand for our freighters today. Later in the year, CAM will begin the passenger-to-freighter conversions of our first A330-300 for lease delivery in 2024. CAM expects to convert and lease 30 such aircraft by 2028, 2/3 of which are already backed by customer commitments. CAM will also begin conversion of a projected 16 767-300 freighters it expects to lease in 2024, most of which have customers awaiting them. ATSG's 2023 outlook also includes the return of eight of the 12 767-200 freighters that ATSG leased to Amazon in 2016. The remaining eight will be re-leased, sold, or harvested, with their engines added to the power-by-the-cycle pool for 767-200 lease customers. ATSG also expects inflationary and schedule reduction impacts on our airlines in 2023, when we expect fewer hours of flying for our ACMI and CMI customers. We remain positive on ATSG's long-term growth opportunities with our major U.S. air network customers and expect to add three customer-provided aircraft this year. We expect that 2024 and 2025 will bring the resumption of strong earnings and cash flow growth from today's investments, with year-over-year growth of about 10% in Adjusted EBITDA and even stronger growth in our leasing segment. Few companies have customers committed to long-term agreements that will generate the kind of cash flow visibility that ATSG enjoys. We have a strong balance sheet, a leadership position in the mid-sized freighter leasing market, and the strong backing of investors in our credit facility and debt securities who regard the feedstock aircraft we are acquiring as prime assets. Our employees are also prepared to execute all of our 2023 plans with a goal to turn exciting opportunities into long-term superior returns for shareholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Quint and I, along with Mike Berger, our Chief Strategy Officer, are ready to answer questions. May we have the first question, operator? Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press star one one again. One moment for our first question. Our first question comes from Jack Atkins with Stephens. Your line is open. Hey, guys. This is Grant on for Jack. Thank you guys for taking my question. I just wanted to dig in a little bit on the 2023 guidance, really on the ACMI side and kind of how you're expecting that to play out, maybe first half versus second half. I think you mentioned in your fleet update that the first half would see a year-over-year decrease in block hours with your larger customers. Today, you talked about a full year block hour decrease year-over-year in cargo and passenger. Just maybe any color on how you're thinking about ACMI over the course of the full year would be great. Thanks. Thanks, thanks for the question. You know, in terms of ACMI, the block hour decrease that we talk about, you know, remember, we had the resumption for ATI of a combi route in the fourth quarter of 2021. We'll have that for the full year. Or excuse me, fourth quarter of 2022, and we'll have it for the full year of 2023. We consider that, you know, as passenger. You know, and of course, the other passenger hours being flown by Omni, you know, primarily for its governmental and the, you know, the DOD and governmental customers. We expect passenger and cargo hours to be down. You know, they'll be down less than 5%, we would anticipate year-over-year for the full year. I, you know, I think really in terms of differentiating, you know, we do expect perhaps in the second half to see, you know, as we typically do, and you see a lot of the forecasts, you know, some recovery, particularly, you know, on the cargo side where hours may pick up seasonally. You know, on the PAC side, it's more of, you know, we expect sort of a steady environment. Those are sometimes a little tougher to forecast. As you know, some of those hours you don't have as much notice on. We've had events happen in the world that can affect the demand, particularly for Omni, you know, on the military side. We do anticipate, I believe, in the, based on what we've seen in the first quarter, we may see some reduced hours in flying, you know, for Omni on the governmental side, if that helps any. Basically, that part, the PAC flying, we're assuming, you know, pretty much steady state in the absence of having any specific information about the second half. Yeah. Thank you for all that. If I could just follow up one more thing. You mentioned the strength internationally, in e-commerce and what you're hearing from your customers. Maybe if you could just talk a little bit on your U.S. customers and, you know, maybe is there any more negative commentary you've heard from them or any calls for concern as you maybe think about trying to re-lease those, 767-200s, as you mentioned? Thanks. Yeah. No, thanks, Grant, for the call. It's Mike Berger. You know, from a U.S. perspective, as Rich mentioned, you know, just to go back to Rich's remarks, you know, our order book for the next couple years, 2023 and 2024, has really been dominant, over 80%, leased outside the U.S. f rom an international perspective. Our strategy to move forward further globally that we started several years ago now really is taking hold and will continue to. We are, you know, while we continue to look for our opportunities within the U.S., and we'll continue to support our customers' growth where needed, our opportunities have really been greater outside the U.S., and we continue to push that way. Great. Thank you guys for the time. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Helane Becker with Cowen. Your line is open. Thanks very much, operator. Hi, everybody, thank you for the time. Let's see. I have two questions. The one question, Quint, when you talk about aircraft that you have placed or that are going to customers or where you have customers signed up, can you talk about it in terms of committed revenue over that timeframe? Like, can you say, you know, we've already had committed revenue of X billion of dollar over the next X number of years? Are you able to say that? Yeah. I mean, it's a good question, Helane. I mean, you know, we talk about, you know, the 20 aircraft, for example, that we are targeting for deployment in 2023. On an annualized basis, you know, you're talking about around $70 million of revenue, you know, for those, for those placements. If you look at 2024, you know, it's a, it's probably more like about, you know, $85 million-$90 million on an annualized on top of that. We have, you know, as Rich said, you know, excellent visibility, you know, on that, on those placements. We've got customer commitments, I think, for, you know, all but two or three of those. Okay. That's hugely helpful. My follow-up question is, I think, I don't know if it was you or Rich who said in your prepared remarks that you have inflationary cost pressure in some of your ACMI businesses. Is that reimbursable by your customers, those cost pressures? Well, certainly there's escalators that are built into our customer contracts. You know, we've all seen inflation at, you know, in recent years that has outpaced, I think, what most folks would have in their contracts. Having said that, I mean, I think it's important to say that, you know, when you look at ACMI services, I mean, it, you know, it's made tremendous progress throughout the pandemic, and, you know, for ATSG's airlines. What we have projected in 2023, for example, their contribution, in terms of Adjusted EBITDA is about 12% higher than it was in 2021, in 2023. 2022 was an excellent year, right? They had, you know, there were some, there were some opportunities, you know, for where customers needed charter flights and things that were higher margin than we might see in 2023, you know, due to the macroeconomic environment. Of course, in 2023, perhaps less commercial opportunities, you may see some of the airlines who participate in the government flying, you know, the CRAF program, they may fly their, more of their entitlements. Some of those airlines, you know, may have been opting to fly commercial trips, you know. When the, you know, when the rates being offered for those types of trips were really high. You know, now there may be less of those, you know, in a, you know, a slower economy in 2023. We anticipate that Omni, while it's gonna do well in 2023, but it may not have as many opportunities to fly and clean up some of the entitlement not flown by some of the other carriers. Right. The only things that there are reimbursables in those ACMI agreements, you know, things like permits, you know, landing fees, those types of things. Fuel is a big reimbursable. The things that have impacted us on an inflationary basis are things like travel cost, because we have to. Okay. Pilots all over the world. Maintenance costs, you know. For maintenance technicians or maintenance contractors, those costs have been, you know, rising over the past few years. Those are built into the rates. They do get escalated, as Quint said, in the general agreements year to year, it's just a matter of whether that escalation keeps up with where the inflationary pressure may be in those different cost items. On the military and the, you know, DOD type flying, those contracts are more akin to cost-plus, and so rates are adjusted. Right. You know, there's a look back, though. There's usually a lag, right? If in the year the i nflation is occurring, you may not get the reimbursement, but when rates are reset in subsequent years, you know, those adjustments are made. That's a risk mitigator. Okay. You know, it creates a dislocation. Okay. Could I squeeze in one more question? I think, Rich, you said that you were gonna use more Boeing to do more conversions than IAI. Why are they gonna be faster to do conversions or turnarounds given all the supply constraint issues they have? Yeah. I didn't say that we were gonna use more Boeing, but we do have eight slots from Boeing. Okay. We're still using a lot of IAI. We have five lines operating there, pretty much at all times. The difference between IAI and Boeing really is that, you know, Boeing has a full production line still going o f factory freighters and factory tankers. I think they've got a sturdier supply chain than some of the other converters and some of the other lines of business. Now we're into the A321, the A330. We've got multiple vendors on the A321 on the conversion side, and of course, we do our own. We've got the two on the 767. We get a good view into, you know, what's going on in some of these supply chains, and I think we mentioned it in the prepared remarks that, you know, we saw some delays from IAI. That a lot of that was related to fabrication and parts vendors that they use in other countries. I think Boeing just has a more captive supply chain just because I believe because they've got that large production line, and that supports their conversion line as well. Okay. That's useful. Helane, it's Mike. They tend to be a little bit more, if I could put it this way, cookie cutter. You know, the work scopes that go into the conversions up front are well-defined, and they're just more cookie cutter approach so that the changes don't impact the actual delivery times. Another way to say that is they're less flexible. I got it. Okay. All right. Thanks, everybody. I appreciate your time. Yep. Thanks, Helane. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Michael Ciarmoli with Truist. Your line is open. Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Good morning. Just I guess, Rich or Quint, just looking at the EBITDA guidance next year. You know, the run rate, I mean, it's basically the second half 2022 EBITDA run rate basically puts you at the low end of that range. You're gonna have more planes in service. Is all of this pressure just coming from ACMI? Or, you know, can you just elaborate a little bit? I was, you know, always operating under the impression, you know, a plane out there is maybe $4 million-$5 million of EBITDA. Just maybe can you provide some color as to the EBITDA, you know, why the run rate just kind of holds from third quarter, fourth quarter all the way through? Yeah. I mean, Michael, it's Quint. You know, you're correct that in terms of the more of the headwind in 2023 is ACMI services. Even though as I mentioned, ACMI services in 2023 is, you know, projected to be up versus, for example, 2021, and certainly way up since the pre-pandemic period. I mean, ACMI services has been a great contributor. But, you know, there is, as we've always said, a little bit more volatility, and our business model has a great deal of stability with the CAM piece. But there's always a little bit of volatility on the ACMI services side. Now, we like that because it's an asset-light business, and generally, it's been a great contributor in terms of overall cash flow. As I said, it has made progress every year except comparing to 2022. As we look at 2023, you know, it's gonna be down, but still up versus prior periods. There's some volatility around the margins on ACMI services. You know, that has to do with, you know, what we said earlier about, you know, where the opportunities might lie for military flying and commercial flying. But on the CAM piece, you know, we talked about in our pre-release, you know, there will be some aircraft coming back, we believe, that will create, you know, a pause, I guess, in terms of revenue stream on those 767-200s that we put the earlier release out on. You know, CAM, certainly in terms of their earnings margins, they're impacted by the rise in interest costs, you know, which is certainly a factor. Of course, inflation also can affect the investments. You know, what it takes to put an aircraft on the ramp and lease it. You know, the lease rate has held up nicely, but similar to a comment earlier, sometimes there's a little bit of a lag there, you know, when inflation moves really quickly, because we have a lot of our growth already programmed in. You know, just like we talked about our pipeline in 2023 and 2024, you know, with what, 40 some aircraft coming out and being leased. You know, we have a lot of that pipeline locked in, you know, 18, 24 months prior to when the asset comes out. That, you know, sometimes that inflation can impact the end-of-service cost, and that's something CAM has to deal with. We're hitting our return margins there. The businesses looks to be positioned, as Rich said, to be the engine that'll drive again in 2024 and 2025, we believe double-digit EBITDA growth year-over-year. In 2023, you know, you have those. You have some returns coming back, and you have that higher interest cost, so there's a little bit of a headwind there. I don't know, Mike, if there's anything? Yes, we view it as an investment year, the line of sight, as Quint mentioned, in terms of our order book in 2023 and 2024, quite honestly, into 2025 on the 767 side, is fabulous. You know, as we look at the engine, the e-commerce engine and what drives that, you know, retail sales as a whole, from now to 2026 are scheduled to grow by $4.6 trillion. $2.2 of that is going to be in e-commerce. As Rich mentioned in his early remarks, we're still seeing very, very strong growth in the areas that around the world that we are seeing success in. Southeast Asia, Africa, the Middle East, for example, are areas that we're seeing great success with new customers as well as our existing customers in those areas. As we progress in 2024 and 2025, we'll be right in the midst of our deliveries on the A330, and that investment for the A330 is taking place now. We're really keen on what the future specifically lies in our EBITDA growth, and getting back to that 10%+, as Quint talked about in the upcoming years. The other piece that I'll just talk about, just from a strength standpoint, is retirements. During the pandemic, about 15 freighters were being retired a year. In a normal year, it's about 70. What does that mean? That means that the demand for cargo freighters around the world is just gonna continue to add strength. We continue to be real positive. Okay. Just on the capital intensity of business, that sustaining CapEx guidance is gonna be up 40%, you know, to $260 million. Is there anything unique happening this year? Presumably maintenance, parts, you know, overall, you know, kind of, shop visits are getting more expensive, but how should we think about this sustaining CapEx going forward? Yeah. Thanks, Michael. It's Quint. The, you know, we've kind of said because maintenance CapEx can move based on the timing of scheduled maintenance, you know, from year to year, I think we've kind of said it's around $200 million of our CapEx in any given year. You're right, 2023 is a little bit higher. You know, now 2022 was, I think, what'd we say? $187 million. You can see it came in a little lower. 2023 is higher than that $200 sort of trend, long-term trend line, mainly because of the timing of some engine overhauls. You know, we maintain a pool of engines for some of the lessees, you know, one of the engine types. It's just based upon, you know, their shop visit, their expected shop visit timing. We've got more of those this year. I mean, you are correct, you know, inflation, as we've said, you know, I don't think any of us can probably think of any cost that it doesn't affect. It has more to do with the timing of scheduled maintenance as to why we're looking at a higher number for maintenance CapEx 2023. Okay. That makes sense. Just the last one, if I may. Any update on your, kind of contracts with your pilots? Just kind of watching the news here, seeing what's going on at FedEx, how are you kinda handicapping or thinking about that risk? We've got pilot contracts open, or amendable, I should say, with both ATI on the cargo side and on in our passenger operator, Omni. Both those contracts have been in negotiation and, you know, the both sides are meeting multiple times per month now and trading information and going forward. The things are progressing. Just based on where they are individually, and they're both in different places, but we don't believe that we'll get to anything very quickly. Okay. We have always taken the position that we need a pilot contract that pays the pilots well enough that we can retain and attract pilots, but also gives us the cost structure required that we can compete for business. We've always been able to make those two positions meet at some point, and we'll continue to pursue the contract negotiations with that perspective. Okay. Perfect. Thanks, guys. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Frank Galanti with Stifel. Your line is open. Yeah, hi. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to follow up on that last question on pilots. Can you sort of talk about availability of pilots? Have you, considering the kind of new EBITDA guidance and expectations for lower block hours, does that sort of alleviate some of the pressure from a pilot perspective? Can you talk about how variable that cost is with block hours? A couple things. One is that, we've been able to attract pilots without a problem over the past year. Any attrition that we've had, we've been able to, you know, stay ahead of the curve in terms of getting the training done and getting them able to fly and preserve all our schedules, and et cetera, et cetera. That's been a good thing. Our average hours are way over the minimum of the new pilots coming in. We're in good shape as far as far as the pilot situation goes. In terms of, the variability of pilot cost as it relates to block hours. I mean, the pilot cost is really, it's under contract, so it, although the pilots will go through the, you know, increase their pay as they go through scales, it doesn't really change that much on an average cost basis per block hour. The contracts that we have, you know, there are escalations that address cost, you know, cost on an annual basis. Okay. Frank, as we look forward at the placements for aircraft, you know, as Mike commented, you know, most all these are going internationally. We don't anticipate, you know, operating those, you know, through the airlines. You know, I think what, over 80% or something are international placements in 2023 and 2024. That will, to your point, it won't drive a demand for additional pilots. It's more about, you know, keeping pace with that attrition that Rich mentioned. Right. If you look at, I mean, just the next two years are gonna be 40 airplanes we're putting out, and you look at the diversification we're getting away from some of our larger lessees, it's a great story, because we've got stability, we've got visibility to cash flows, and we've got a differentiated business model going forward into different parts of the world. That's helpful. I wanted to ask about the 767-200. Can you sort of talk about in the press release, you had an expectation of, at the end of 2023, being down eight planes. Can you just talk about the age and efficiency interest in that platform? Kind of second part of that, last year you took in-house the engine services for that plane. You sort of talked about $40 million-$45 million of EBITDA contribution from that. Where does that sort of stack relative to what you expected in 2022 versus 2023, with sort of the changes in that platform? In terms of the last part of that question, I don't know if Mike or Rich might jump in the first part on the 200s. Your question about the engine piece. For 2022, it was right around the $40 million that we talked about at the beginning of the year when we gave guidance, you know, in terms of that EBITDA contribution. Remember, there was kind of a step-up there because we ended a long time PBC agreement with a provider, and we went to the pooling structure that we have now, where we essentially, you know, we overhaul, we maintain that pool of engines and make it available to lessees who operate the aircraft. On a 2023 versus 2022, there won't be much of a change. In other words, it's not a big driver of incremental EBITDA. That was sort of that, you know, changing that structure from 2021 to late 2021 to 2022 that drove that, you know, $40 million increase in 2022. You know, pretty much a stable contribution in 2023 versus 2022 from the engine piece. In regards to the first part of your question about the demand for the 767-200. You know, we've seen still very, very good demand for the airframe. As Rich had mentioned in his opening remarks, we certainly will have some opportunities to sell some of those airframes, as well as re-lease them out to the marketplace. As we view those opportunities, and we'll kind of have our choice, if I could put it that way, to pick and choose what's best for us as we get those returns. Couple that with the engine program, the pool of engines that Quint mentioned, that we still not only feel, but see strong requests and strong demand for that airframe. Great. Thank you very much. Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you wish to remove yourself from the queue, please press star one one again. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Howard Rosencrans with VA. Your line is open. Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the question. Yeah. I guess I just wanna understand the, I mean, obviously, the market is having a different reaction to what you're saying, in terms of one of the prior speakers commented on quote, great story. To simplify in terms of the Growth CapEx, you've got $600 million in 2023. It sort of implies about $600 million in 2024. Is that sort of related to... again, just to oversimplify without the breakdown between BA and the Airbus equipment. Ostensibly, we're talking about $27 million-$30 million per- I'm sorry, Howard, you cut off there. Are you still there? Yeah. No. I had completed the question. Oh. Oh, okay. Ostensibly, are we talking about $27 million-$30 million per aircraft? If that's again, whether it flows in. Yeah. As working capital or it flows in as, but it's basically in terms of the CapEx. Is that what we're effectively talking about? Then I wanna ask you the follow on. Well, we talked about that range in terms of the 767-300s, you know. Uh-huh. To what investments look like, putting, you know, to put them on the ramp in leasable shape. Right. Right. Okay. It's pretty much the same ballpark for the Airbus, right? Is that fair to say? Yeah. It depends upon the Airbus, you know, type. You know, Rich has said in the past, you know, think of the narrow body A321 as about two-thirds, you know, of the size. Right. About two-thirds the A330 is about 20% larger. Right. Than the 767-300. It's gonna be a part of that. At the end of the day, it all washes out to about the same thing. That leads me to my real question here. The market is suggesting, or the investment community, however you wanna look at it, is suggesting that now the returns that you're gonna generate are not going to be the returns that you have generated historically. I guess, just to speculate, there's a lack of comfort with the customers, vis-à-vis the customers like Amazon and DHL and FedEx and, you know, the ones that have been part of your fleet. How do you give us the comfort level that the customers that you have on the horizon, where you're gonna do these placements, are going to have the same fortitude, you know, if let's say, for the sake of conversation, you know, the e-com growth on an international basis is not as pronounced exactly, you know, that's gonna impact, we assume, more your ACMI, which is more the volatility side of the business. As long as we get the CAM placements there, and as long as they're taking them, then we get the return on the CAM side. Let's face it, that's the lion's share of the cash flow. Since your debt is going up so much over the ensuing two years, it, to me, I just wanna and I think for others, we just wanna get a higher level of comfort that the varied buyers that we're now gonna be doing business with or are sharply accelerated, will be able to comfortably perform in line with the way your Goliath, let's say, domestic or global players have performed. Howard, no, it's a good question. I'm glad you asked it because we've made this, we've handled a similar question in the past about some of the smaller lessees that we have. There's a couple of things. One is that several of the lessees that are prominently positioned to take, whether it's A321, 767s or A330s, also fly for express companies or fly an express network that multiple companies may participate in. For example, Cargojet up in Canada. We've also got some large companies in this portfolio that will be taking airplanes internationally. DHL is in line for both 767s and A330s from now through 2026. You've got a company, ASL, that's based in Ireland but has several AOCs all over Europe. They're the largest ACMI operator in Europe, and they fly for multiple express companies, and they have very strong agreements. Then you've got a company like Raya in Malaysia, which is gonna be taking A321s, and they're currently a 767 customer. They fly for DHL. When you look at these lessees, they're diversifying us globally. Although they may not be, you know, your household name of DHL, UPS, or FedEx, they fly for those people. The credits that they represent are very strong in relation to, you know, other, you know, just the general airline that's, that's out there. We, we have a lot of confidence. We do a lot of vetting of airlines in terms of what they're gonna do with the airplane, so we have a general understanding. Another one I forgot to mention was Maersk is taking. Will end up with five airplanes from us. They've already taken three. There's two more to be delivered to them. Of course, Maersk is one of the largest, if not the largest, ocean company in the world. Those are the types of customer we've got, and so we're very confident in the cash flows that we'll be receiving from these customers. Yeah. Just to bring a little bit more color to it, Howard. You know, our partner, one of our partners in Africa, Astral Aviation, was just named cargo airline of the year for that region. Rich mentioned Raya. They were named e-commerce airline of the year in Southeast Asia. Just a little bit further detail on Mirastar. They've been the provider of UPS in their European network for, literally for over 30 years. The vetting is very diligent, and understanding their business plans and how they're going to succeed is also very important. As Rich said as well, DHL specifically is in line to take several aircraft over the next few years on the 767 side as well as the A330. Howard, you mentioned, you know, how the market views it in contrast with, you know, what we're saying. Of course, you know, we're not second-guessing anybody or the market, but it is a little frustrating. I mean, like, you know, when we look at somebody looking just at a quarter, for example. Even this quarter, you know, I think we had a tax item where we adjusted our state tax apportionment based on where the aircraft fly, you know, which states they fly over 'cause they have different tax rates. You run that. We had something that was probably $0.03-$0.05. In the fourth quarter. Well, you know, that's kind of the difference between the consensus and, our $0.53. You know, we hit our target that we set in February of last year for full year EBITDA. You know, of course, we've talked at length about, the visibility we have to sustainable structural growth in our leasing business, which is, as you point out, the source of the majority of our cash flows and will be under long-term agreements for many, many years. So we feel very fortunate, to have that in front of us. You know, as I mentioned, there's a little volatility around the edges with our asset light ACMI flying, but even they have made tremendous progress since pre-pandemic period and even since 2021. CapEx-wise, you know, the leasing business requires CapEx. There's, you know, that comes with that territory we get. With the placements of 20 aircraft this year and more than that in 2024, and the first of the A330s, we essentially have locked in growth for three years forward. Even if you pull your, you know, pull back on investments after 2024, the placements you make in 2024 are gonna drive substantial EBITDA growth in 2025. We feel very fortunate about that, and we hope that investors, you know, focus on that long term and recognize that, you know, we've now demonstrated that our model performs well under different economic cycles. You know, having gone through the pandemic, coming out of it, and even the slower growth that we've guided to in 2023, you know, contrast that with other transportation companies, and you can see that there truly is a stable base here that we feel very fortunate to have as part of our business model. Well, thank you. Sorry for. No, no. I needed to get that out now. I appreciate it. Thank you for all the incremental color. I think you need to dedicate more time to discussing the international customers in slides, et cetera, because clearly there has been a significant transition that was underappreciated by the investment community, number one. Number two, clearly things have changed just in terms of the Boeing fleet, because six months ago, those were not your expectations that those were gonna come off or that you were going to, as which was gonna ostensibly lead to, as somebody else commented, a flat run rate of the base core EBITDA. I think there's a greater understanding, and I can assure you that the market commentary is not based on whether or not you made or missed the fourth quarter by a penny here or there. Thank you. Thanks, Howard. Bye-bye. Thanks, Howard. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Rich Corrado for any closing remarks. Thank you, Kevin. You know, we've long discussed the resiliency of our business model with freighter leasing as the foundation and value-added services that make us unique and differentiated from any other competitor in the world. We have no peers in what we do. Many air transport services companies have struggled through the pandemic, trying to get back to a 2019 baseline. Since 2019, ATSG has delivered 38% revenue growth and 42% growth in Adjusted EBITDA. Our guidance today continues on that growth trend, although slowed by the same economic headwinds impacting all companies. Still, the visibility we have to cash flows from our freighter investments with waiting customers over the next three years, gets us right back onto a 10% EBITDA growth trajectory in 2024 and 2025, just based on the leasing commitments alone. More fortunate market conditions could also lift our other services, delivering even higher returns. Once again, ATSG's resiliency is demonstrated through the most challenging of times. As we drive our results for 2023 and beyond, we remain a great investment for stability, growth, and high visibility of future returns. Thank you all for your interest in ATSG, and please stay safe. Well, ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.