Good day everyone, and welcome to the Lumentum Holdings Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please also note today's event is being recorded for replay purposes. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by 1. To withdraw your question, please press star followed by 2. Should you require operator assistance, please press star followed by 0. Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Kathy Ta, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Ta, please go ahead. Thank you, operator. Welcome to Lumentum's Fiscal Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. This is Kathy Ta, Lumentum's Vice President of Investor Relations. Joining me today are Alan Lowe, President and Chief Executive Officer, Wajid Ali, Chief Financial Officer, and Chris Coldren, Senior Vice President and Chief Strategy and Corporate Development Officer. Today's call will include forward-looking statements, including statements regarding our expectations regarding our two recent acquisitions, including market opportunity, expected synergies, financial and operating results, and expectations regarding accretion, strategies of the combined company and benefits to customers and the markets in which we operate, as well as the impact of COVID-19 on our business and continuing uncertainty in this regard, including macroeconomic trends and expectations for our products and technology, our markets, market opportunity and customers, and our expected financial performance, including our guidance, as well as statements regarding our future revenues, our financial models, and our margin targets. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations, particularly the risk factors described in our SEC filings. We encourage you to review our most recent filings with the SEC, particularly the risk factors described in the quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended April 2, 2022, and those in the Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended July 2, 2022, to be filed by Lumentum with the SEC within 60 days of our fiscal year end. The forward-looking statements provided during this call are based on Lumentum's reasonable beliefs and expectations as of today. Lumentum undertakes no obligation to update these statements except as required by applicable law. Please also note, unless otherwise stated, all financial results and projections discussed in this call are non-GAAP. Non-GAAP financials are not to be considered as a substitute for or superior to financials prepared in accordance with GAAP. Lumentum's press release with the fiscal fourth quarter 2022 results and accompanying supplemental slides are available on our website at www.lumentum.com under the Investors section. This includes additional details about our non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation between our historical GAAP and non-GAAP results. With that, I'll turn the call over to Alan. Thank you, Kathy, and good morning, everyone. This is truly an exciting time for Lumentum. We have an expanding set of use cases for our market-leading photonics products. With the close of NeoPhotonics and yesterday's announced purchase of IPG Photonics' telecom transmission product lines, we have a more comprehensive product portfolio than ever before. We expect fiscal 2023 revenue to be up more than 25% from fiscal 2022 at the midpoint of our outlook. As I look ahead, we forecast healthy double-digit growth in our telecom and datacom business over a multi-year period. In fiscal 2022, we achieved record revenue in datacom EMLs, coherent components, pump lasers, tunable products, and subsea components with company profitability above expectations. Fiscal fourth quarter revenue was above our midpoint with both operating margin and earnings per share exceeding the top end of our guidance. We are well positioned for double-digit growth into fiscal 2023 and beyond due to strong fundamental drivers in our telecom and datacom businesses. On August 3, we completed our acquisition of NeoPhotonics, which increases Lumentum's exposure to the rapidly growing 400 gig and above optical communication opportunities, creates an even better partner for our customers, and expands our photonics toolkit into areas such as ZR and ZR+ modules, silicon photonics, high bandwidth coherent components, ultra-narrow linewidth external cavity tunable lasers, and RF integrated circuits. The feedback from our customers on this transaction has been very positive as they appreciate the logic of adding NeoPhotonics products and capabilities to our portfolio. I'm also delighted to welcome the talented NeoPhotonics team to the company, and I can't wait to see what our combined innovation engine comes up with next. Yesterday, we announced the purchase of IPG Photonics' telecom transmission product lines. As we have mentioned previously, there is a significant opportunity in providing tunable transceivers into the cable and wireless network operator market. This acquisition augments our product offering addressing this opportunity. This acquisition also brings a talented team developing communication ICs, including coherent DSPs, which complements the IC capabilities we obtained from the NeoPhotonics acquisition. This brings vertical integration opportunities in future coherent transceivers in addition to our 400G ZR and ZR+ products, including those targeting opportunities within the data center and at the edge of the network. We are making progress to increase the supply of third-party materials and ICs that are limiting our ability to meet the very strong customer demand for our telecom products. The diligent work of our supply chain team enabled a 16% sequential growth in telecom/datacom revenue in the fourth quarter, but demand still exceeded supply by approximately $100 million. We expect sequential growth again in the first quarter. We do, however, expect shortages to continue at least until the first half of calendar 2023. Now let me provide some detail on our fourth quarter and full year results. As I mentioned earlier, telecom/datacom revenue was up 16% quarter-over-quarter. In fiscal 2022, our 10G tunable transceiver products achieved record revenues with particular strength in metro access and fiber deep applications for cable and wireless networking customers. We are investing to double our manufacturing capacity for our 10G and upcoming 25G tunable transceiver products in our wafer fab and our back-end assembly and test factories, supporting the rapid transition to our differentiated technology by cable MSO and wireless network operator customers to support their increasing needs for bandwidth. In fiscal 2022, we also set new revenue records for our subsea components, which were up 65% year-over-year, and for our terrestrial pump lasers, which were up 49% year-over-year. Typically, increases in sales of these products is a leading indicator of future demand, which adds to our confidence of continued growth in our telecom product lines. In the quarter, ROADM revenue grew 23% sequentially. While ROADM growth has been slowed by IC supply shortages, the mix continues to shift to newer, more advanced products. In Q4, high port count and M-by-N ROADMs comprised over 70% of the revenue mix. This richening of the mix towards newer and more advanced ROADMs is consistent with our customers being in the early phases of new network deployments. It is also another leading indicator of future demand for our telecom products, including transmission products, which we bolstered with the NeoPhotonics acquisition. In datacom, as expected, we grew EML revenue to a new quarterly record in the fourth quarter and achieved a new annual record for fiscal 2022. We nearly doubled our internal manufacturing capacity for EML products in fiscal 2022, enabling us to better support the robust customer demand for our 100 G per lane solutions. We are also driving the next phase of datacom industry roadmap with our 200 G per lane EMLs for 1.6 terabit per second applications. We expect these to enter production as we exit fiscal 2023 and are engaged with multiple customers in design and activities for these leading-edge chips. Looking ahead to our first quarter, we expect telecom and datacom revenue to be up sequentially due to strong demand and improvements in IC supply. While growth continues to be gated by IC supply, we believe that we will shrink the gap between supply and demand from the more than $100 million level in Q4 to approximately $75 million in Q1. Turning to industrial and consumer, Q4 revenue was down from Q3 due to normal seasonality in 3D sensing. We are executing on our strategy to expand our 3D sensing and LiDAR platforms into applications beyond smartphones. As we've discussed previously, our product pipeline for automotive, industrial, and consumer use cases is growing. In automotive, we are ramping production of multi-junction VCSEL arrays, long-range LiDAR products, and products for in-cabin driver monitoring systems. We are also the supplier of record for building automation and occupant sensing reference designs. In the consumer space, we are working closely with multiple customers who are developing extended reality solutions. While we execute on our long-term strategy in 3D sensing, as we have mentioned previously, we expect share normalization and normal price reductions in the coming smartphone cycle. We expect smartphone 3D sensing revenue in fiscal 2023 to be reduced by approximately 40%-50% from last year's run rate, starting from our first fiscal quarter. As such, we expect first quarter industrial and consumer revenue to be up only modestly from the prior quarter. We are still optimistic about our 3D sensing business as applications in automotive, the metaverse, and industrial begin to ramp. Underscoring this, in the fourth quarter, we recognized approximately $2 million in revenue from automotive applications, and we expect this to grow in the first quarter. In fiscal 2022, our commercial lasers revenue was up 59% from fiscal 2021. In the fourth quarter, revenue was up 39% from the same quarter last year. Approximately half of the revenue was driven by fiber lasers serving industrial applications, with the other half derived from ultrafast lasers, solid-state lasers, gas lasers, and our laser service business. These solid results reflect a growing set of applications, introduction of new products, and growth into new markets and with new customers, such as in solar cell and EV battery processing. Looking ahead to the first quarter, we expect laser revenue to grow quarter-over-quarter to a new record level. To summarize, I am very excited about our future. We are well-positioned to capitalize on the increasing use of photonics in growing use cases across multiple end markets. Over the coming years, our products are critical to multi-year cloud and network infrastructure expansion, and deployments are accelerating. Underscoring this, at the midpoint of our revenue guidance, we expect first quarter telecom, datacom, and lasers revenue to be up over $130 million or 45% compared to the same quarter last year. About half of this growth is organic despite ongoing supply constraints. To capitalize on these trends in communications, consumer, and industrial end markets, we are accelerating R&D investments during fiscal 2023, which we believe will accelerate top line growth in fiscal 2024 and beyond. These investments include coherent DSPs, 800G and higher speed communication technologies, laser sources for high-performance computing architectures, and the adoption of AI in data centers, industrial sensing and 3D imaging, LiDAR and in-cabin sensing for automotive, and industrial lasers for electric vehicle and battery manufacturing. Wajid will quantify the impact of this on our fiscal 2023 outlook. I would like to thank our employees around the world for all of their hard work and resilience that has put us in such a great position in our markets and to grow strongly over the coming years. With that, I'll turn it over to Wajid. Thank you, Alan. Net revenue for the fourth quarter was $422.1 million, which exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range. Net revenue was up 6.8% sequentially and up 7.7% year-on-year. GAAP gross margin for the fourth quarter was 43%, GAAP operating margin was 13.1%, and GAAP diluted net income per share was $0.49. Fourth quarter non-GAAP gross margin was 50.4%, which was up sequentially and year-on-year, primarily driven by higher revenue. During the quarter, we accumulated $8.2 million in extraordinary charges to acquire IC components from various brokers to satisfy customer demand. These incremental charges were excluded from the non-GAAP gross margin. Fourth quarter non-GAAP operating margin was 28.8%, which increased sequentially and year on year due to higher revenue and was above the high end of our guidance range. Fourth quarter non-GAAP operating income was $121.6 million, and Adjusted EBITDA was $142 million. Fourth quarter non-GAAP operating expenses totaled $91.1 million or 21.6% of revenue. SG&A expense was $41 million. R&D expense was $50.1 million. Other income and expense was a net income of $1.2 million on a non-GAAP basis. Fourth quarter non-GAAP net income was $105 million, and non-GAAP diluted net income per share was $1.47, which was above our guidance range provided on our last call. Our fully diluted share count for the fourth quarter was 71.5 million shares. Our non-GAAP tax rate remains 14.5%. Turning to the full-year results, fiscal 2022 net revenue was $1.71 billion, which was down 1.7% from fiscal 2021, primarily due to component shortages gating our ability to meet the strong demand, as Alan indicated earlier. GAAP gross margin for fiscal 2022 was 46%, GAAP operating margin was 17.7%, and GAAP diluted net income per share was $2.68. Full-year fiscal non-GAAP gross margin was 51.6%, which was up 70 basis points relative to fiscal 2021 due to product mix and lower relative manufacturing costs. Fiscal year 2022 non-GAAP operating margin at 30.8% was flat from that of fiscal 2021 and above our business model. Fiscal 2022 non-GAAP operating income was $527 million, and Adjusted EBITDA was $608.6 million. For Fiscal 2022, our fully diluted share count was 74.2 million shares. Non-GAAP net income was $449.2 million, and non-GAAP diluted net income per share was $6.05. Moving to the balance sheet. We generated $459.3 million in cash from operations in Fiscal 2022, ending the year with cash and short-term investments of $2.55 billion. During the fourth quarter, we generated $114.3 million in cash from operations and purchased 1.3 million shares for $103.3 million. As of the end of the fourth quarter, we have purchased a total of 9.1 million Lumentum shares in the last two fiscal years, reflecting our confidence in long-term growth. Turning to segment details. Fourth quarter optical communications segment revenue at $370.9 million increased 8% sequentially due to improved component supply and robust demand in our telecom business. Optical Communication segment gross margin at 49.8% increased sequentially and year-on-year, primarily due to higher revenue. Our fourth quarter Laser segment revenue at $51.2 million was flat sequentially and was up 39% year-on-year. Fourth quarter lasers gross margin at 54.5% was a new record for this business, driven by higher volumes and improved utilization. Before turning to our guidance, given the number of moving parts in our business, including the two acquisitions we just closed, I would like to add some color on our outlook for fiscal 2023. Before synergies, these acquisitions are operating well below our target model, and we plan to accelerate our R&D spending to capture new opportunities that we have with our broader set of products and capabilities. We also continue to experience supply chain challenges, and as previously discussed, we are experiencing share normalization in 3D sensing. Therefore, we would like to provide some expectations around the business and give a one-time fiscal 2023 financial outlook to aid investors in modeling the company. We expect that our largest 3D sensing customer will comprise between 10%-15% of our company revenue in fiscal 2023. Also, we expect the second half of our fiscal year will have improved IC supply compared to the first half, which will allow growth to accelerate and result in second half company revenue being larger than that of the first half. Based on all this, we expect fiscal 2023 revenue to be in the range of $2.1 billion-$2.25 billion with an operating margin in the range of 24%-26% and earnings per share between $6-$7. This fiscal 2023 margin performance is below our target model due to acquisitions and accelerated R&D investments. However, our 50% gross margin and 30% operating margin model continues to be our target. As we execute on acquisition synergies and work down shortages in IC supply, and we begin to realize the benefits from the accelerated R&D investments, we expect to return to our target financial model. Now on to our guidance for the first quarter of fiscal 2023, which is on a non-GAAP basis and is based on our assumptions as of today. We expect net revenue for the first quarter of fiscal 2023 to be in the range of $490 million-$520 million. This includes approximately eight weeks of revenue from NeoPhotonics. As Alan indicated earlier, we are closing the gap between IC supply and our customers' demand for our products. Our Q1 guidance incorporates approximately $75 million of impact to revenue driven by shortages of third-party components. Based on this, we project first quarter operating margin to be in the range of 25%-27% and diluted net income per share to be in the range of $1.45-$1.70. Our non-GAAP EPS guidance for the first quarter is based on a non-GAAP annual effective tax rate of 14.5%. These projections assume an approximate share count of 71.5 million shares. Our share count estimate of 71.5 million shares for Q1 non-GAAP EPS guidance utilizes the treasury stock method in deriving the number of shares. This reflects our intent to pay for the principal amount of our convertible debt in cash through operations or future financing. Given this is how we intend to operate the company, we will continue to use this method for the foreseeable future in deriving our non-GAAP EPS. For GAAP purposes, our Q1 EPS will follow accounting standard ASU 2020-06 and the related if converted method. We expect this to result in a share count of approximately 96 million shares. Before wrapping up, I would like to offer some comments on the NeoPhotonics acquisition. Given the complementary nature of our business with that of NeoPhotonics, we expect to generate more than $50 million in annual run rate synergies within the next two years. Cost of goods synergies are expected to comprise more than 60% of this total, driven by manufacturing infrastructure and supply chain efficiencies. Operating expense synergies will be driven by aligning and integrating our organization and by serving a similar customer base. We are just two weeks into our integration work, and we'll provide updates on our progress in the coming quarters. With that, I'll turn the call back to Kathy to start the Q&A session. Kathy? Thank you, Wajid. Before we start the Q&A session, I'd like to ask everyone to keep to one question and one follow-up. This should help us get to as many participants as possible before the end of our allotted time. Operator, let's begin the Q&A session. Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. If you'd like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by 2. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure you're unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Alex Henderson of Needham. Alex, your line is now open. Thanks. Let me start off with just a clarification. I thought you said in the text of the presentation that you expected a 30% operating margin, yet your outlook for FY 2023 is 24%-26% operating margin. Is that the delta between the integration of NeoPhotonics and the acquisition from IPG that causes that? You know, could you clarify what you think these two acquisitions will do in terms of accretion or dilution to the FY 2023 numbers? Sure. Hi, Alex. The current year, we're going to be faced with some headwinds. Obviously, we had talked about the fact that we would go through a bit of a transition period with the acquisition of NeoPhotonics, and that would have a headwind on our overall operating model. Now in addition to that, with the latest purchase that we announced yesterday, that comes with increased R&D expenses as well as we invest in DSP technology. You know, the two of those things combined are having a headwind for fiscal year 2023. Our 30% operating margin continues to be our target model. You know, as we work through the synergies for NeoPhotonics and as we get the benefit from the acquisition that we announced yesterday, we'll also see some incremental synergies within our NeoPhotonics product lines, specifically as we see ZR products ramp up. The two of those things combined should provide some leverage as well as bring in incremental earnings on a standalone basis as well. The NeoPhotonics acquisition is accretive day one, and so, you know, we're seeing some accretion even in our fiscal Q1 from that acquisition. The IPG acquisition is not accretive in Q1, and it will be a headwind during the year. I'd say the two of them combined are still net accretive on a full year basis. Hopefully that answers your question. Yeah. I'm still confused. I thought you had said in the text of the presentation that you were expecting a 30% operating margin. Is that incorrect? Yeah. In the text of the presentation, we said. Is that a long-term target, not a 2023 target? Yeah. That continues to be our target model, yes. Long term. Okay. We haven't changed our target model. Um. Yes, our long-term target model. That's right. Just going to the IPG stuff, and then I'll cede the floor. Can you give us some sense of the scaling of that business? You know, what kind of revenue base is attached to it, or what kind of cost structure is attached to it? Yeah. Hi, Alex. Thanks for the question. The revenue is really not material at this point. We expect to be able to grow it with our sales force and, you know. It's still not gonna move the needle much there. The real gem there is the team and the progress that they've made on DSP technology. We're gonna continue to make those investments and, in fact, ramp up those investments to be able to get out the first DSP, but also work with the team on the roadmap for future DSPs. As with any kind of large scale semiconductor development, it is not for the faint of heart and there's incremental R&D needed to be able to develop leading edge DSPs. We believe that we're positioned well to be able to make those investments and have those returns come in fiscal 2024 and beyond. I see. That's a fairly large investment in DSPs that you're making. Okay. Thanks. Yep. Thanks, Alex. Thanks for the questions, Alex. Thank you. Our next question comes from George Notter of Jefferies. George, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hi, guys. Thanks very much. I guess I wanted to ask about your comments on share normalization. You know, if I look at the revenue guidance, you know, it feels like you're missing $55-$60+ million in sales as we, you know, roll into the September quarter layering in NeoPhotonics. You know, maybe talk about the impact on share normalization, what's going on there, you know, what you expect going forward would be great. Thanks. Sure, George. Thanks for the question. You know, it's been. I think we're on year 6 of smartphone ramps, and we've had a disproportionately very large share of that business. And we've been talking about share normalization for quite some time. It's coming to that time. And as we said in the preannounce, in the script, we expect the smartphone revenue for Lumentum to be down between 40% and 50% year-over-year, and we're starting to see that even in the first quarter. So, we expect 3D sensing for smartphones to be up modestly in the first quarter, whereas in prior years this was the quarter where it would be dramatic. We're seeing share normalization starting as soon as this first quarter. Is this a permanent change in the business? Is there something just systematic to your products relative to your competitors that is creating that share normalization? Any more sort of root cause would be great. Well, I think root cause is that any large scale consumer electronics company wants to have diversity of supply, and they've been working on that for years. I think finally after six years they've gotten more diversity of supply. That said, we are still working diligently with that customer as well as other customers to be the design partner of choice. We expect that there will be fluctuations in share, and we expect to have moments of time where we gain a lot of that share back. We'll have to see. I think what we tried to do was provide the most likely outcome for not only Q1, but for the fiscal 2023. That's why we were very specific in that lower revenue from smartphones of 40%-50% in the year. Got it. Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks, George. Thanks, George. Our next question comes from Simon Leopold of Raymond James. Simon, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Great. Appreciate you taking the question. First one for Wajid. You gave us I think some pretty good detail on what's going on with the convertible debt treatment and your commitment to settle in cash. Could you explain how it affects the balance sheet? I think it's my understanding that your debt also goes up higher. Just if you could walk us through that, and then I've got a follow-up on the telecom trends. Yeah. You know, the impact on the balance sheet, we'll start to see less of an amortization of the debt discount back to the convertible debt. That's certainly something that you know, we'll call out in our fiscal Q1. I think the more important thing is from a balance sheet standpoint is that you know, we'll start to. We have a maturity in fiscal 2024, March 2024, on the first $450 million of convertible debt. What you'll start seeing is us working our capital structure so that we can pay for that principal maturity by March 2024. Now obviously we have enough cash on the balance sheet to comfortably do that, and our expectation is that we should be able to generate sufficient cash in addition to what we currently have to be able to cover that. As you know, our next convertible debt isn't due until 2026, where we also have similar commitment and similar plans. That's the reason we've chosen to take the accounting treatment the way that we have. The debt would go from about $1.9 billion to about $2.4 billion. Is that the right calculation? That's correct. That's about right, yes. Okay, great. Thank you. Appreciate that. I wanted to see, Alan, you gave us some nice color on the ROADM trends, which I'm happy to see that snapping back. Could you dig into a little bit about what you see going on in transmission and then your views on the ZR market opportunities now that you've got NeoPhotonics within the business? I'm looking for this as more of the sort of fiscal 2023 longer term outlook, not just next quarter. Thank you. Sure. Thanks, Simon. Yeah, I think, you know, ROADMs were up strongly and were probably the product line that were most constrained by IC supply. As that frees up, we should see continued growth in ROADMs. On the transmission side, the coherent components, high speed coherent components were up 250% year-over-year. We expect that to continue to grow as we come out with, you know, very high performance modulators, tunable lasers. Now with the addition of NeoPhotonics, receivers and ultra-narrow linewidth external cavity tunable lasers. Pretty exciting times there on the transmission side. As we talked about in the script, the 10 gig and soon to be 25 gig is really ramping steeply, and we're adding capacity to actually double that, as the MSO market and wireless market is really adopting this for the higher bandwidth and the tunability of those products. On the ZR market, I think it's still fairly early days as we've been getting more and more into what's the ZR and ZR+ products from NeoPhotonics into our portfolio. We expect that to ramp up over the coming years. With the addition of the IPG acquisition from yesterday, our expectations are that we, you know, have a full portfolio of DSPs that then make us more competitive in that market. Again, though, we'll be relying on third-party suppliers for DSPs for quite some time, but we expect that that investment in DSP technology and the acquisition we've announced yesterday will really put us in a very strong position in ZR+, and beyond. Thank you. Great. Thanks, Simon. Thanks, Simon. Our next question comes from Tom O'Malley of Barclays. Tom, your line is now open. Please proceed. Hey, good morning, guys, and thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to dive back into the normalization of 3D sensing share. You guys have been pretty vocal about calling this out before, and you've also mentioned that in this coming year, you're gonna be below that long-term guidance of kind of flattish down 5%. In your prepared remarks here, you're saying that there's really no difference in terms of ASP degradation than normal. When you just take where you guys have been historically from a share perspective down to even, you know, 50% share, you don't really even get close to that down 40% or 50%. Could you just talk about any new trends that might be going on that may be weakening the coming year, from a technology perspective, or if there are potentially sockets that you had originally thought you would get that you're no longer in competition for, or perhaps you've shipped in a little more than you would have thought originally? Just any color there, just because that number is pretty extreme. Hey, Tom. Thanks for the question. This is Chris. I guess I would roll back and say, if you look back a year ago or so, new chips were introduced that are smaller and lower priced, if you recall. Over the past year, though, we, you know, largely offset, that reduction via share gains. Over the past 12 months, I think we've had, you know, even higher than our historical outsized positions. I guess I would argue that, the share normalization effect is quite significant. If you layer on, you know, on top of that a normal price, reduction year over year for like-for-like types of chips, we end up with the kind of, declines that we mentioned in the prepared remarks. There's nothing structural going on or changes that are impacting our outlook. It really goes back to the share normalization combined with price reductions that are, you know, in the normal range for chips that have been sold, you know, same year over year, you know, quote, "mature" for a, you know, very rapid paced consumer electronics world. Helpful. Just on the supply chain, it seems like moving into the September quarter, you're getting some ICs coming through the door that are, you know, loosening things up. Could you just talk to the cadence that you expect to see that loosen up through the December quarter? You're getting $25 million out of that $100 million right out of the gate, but do you see it further loosening into December, or do you anticipate to continue carrying some of that constraint all the way through the end of the calendar year? Thank you. Yeah, Tom. Our supply chain team has done a great job and has been relentless with our suppliers and done a really great job. I think one of the dynamics we have seen in the June quarter and even into the first half of the September quarter is less necessity for these broker spot buys. The supply from the normal channel is getting better in many cases. Now, that doesn't mean that we have all the ICs we need. We still are struggling for several of them. I do expect that as the broker market becomes less relevant to us, we'll start seeing a better supply of chips. That said, you know, we need to be getting chips in the next 30 days in order to impact our ability to produce product in the December quarter, and that's still constrained. That's why we talked about having the supply shortages into the first half of calendar 2023. We do expect that the December quarter will be better than the September quarter, but still highly constrained given the strong demand we're seeing in our telecom products. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Tom. Thanks, Tom. Thank you. Our next question comes from Meta Marshall of Morgan Stanley. Meta, your line is now open. Great. Thanks. Maybe following up on the last question, you know, is kind of the loosening you're seeing of supply, is any of that from redesigns kind of coming into effect, or is that mostly just from availability of kind of needed products coming available? Then second question on just on the industrial lasers piece, you know, you noted some growth potential with growth in new markets, but just wanted to get a sense of is there any macro impact you're seeing just kind of on the core industrial lasers business? Thanks. Sure, Meta. You know, as we talked about on some prior calls, we have been doing some redesign work. I'd say that is helping, but I'd say the general supply availability of semiconductors has gotten, g otten better, but still not where we need it to go. I'd say it's a combination of both. The heavier impact is the overall supply on some suppliers that were big problems for us six months ago that are really no longer a problem. We're getting fewer surprises, last-minute surprises that were very frequent in prior quarters. On the industrial lasers question, we are developing a lot of new lasers, both from Fiber Lasers, higher power Fiber Lasers, as well as Ultrafast Lasers that allow us to get into new markets and new customers. What we're seeing is diversification of our customer base into new applications, and we mentioned the solar processing, solar cell processing as well as EV battery processing. Those are big markets that are growing quickly that we believe we have a good inroad there, that should lead us to continued growth through fiscal 2023 and beyond. As far as macro environments, we're not seeing any macro environment concerns on industrial production or lasers consumption. So far, so good on that front. Great. Thank you. Thanks, Meta. Thank you. Our next question comes from Christopher Rolland of Susquehanna. Christopher, your line is now open. Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. This one's probably for Wajid. Maybe if you can talk about some of the moving parts on gross margin and OpEx into September. I know we have that combined op margin, but how that plays out. Then I guess the transaction closed at the beginning of August, so do we still have another third to embed into the December quarter? Thanks. Yeah, Chris. You know, moving into the first quarter from the fourth quarter, we're seeing you know, modest improvements across all of our product lines. Now, like Alan mentioned earlier, normally we see a pretty big uptick moving into Q1 from Q4 with our 3D sensing business. We're not seeing as much of that. It is quite modest moving into Q1. Our gross margin profile, you know, if you kind of put aside NeoPhotonics for a moment, is pretty similar to how we've been operating in fiscal Q4 with our business running right at our target model. Now, once you layer in eight weeks of NeoPhotonics revenue, and, you know, as you know, the gross margins in that business is significantly lower than our target model, that is having an impact on the company overall. The way to think about December, I think it's quite fair to say yes, you would add in another one third of revenue because we closed on August third. July revenues were not part of our fiscal Q1 guidance, so that should certainly be there for fiscal Q2. That is the right way to think about it. Okay, great. You guys talked about some broader opportunities for 3D sensing and investing there. Maybe you can talk about these opportunities, whether you think they can make a meaningful dent on what was left by your largest customer there. I think you also mentioned occupant sensing as well. That sounds like a new market for me. I don't know if you can expand on that as well. Hey, Chris. This is Chris. Great questions. I guess starting off in terms of opportunities outside of our you know lead customer that we've you know has driven the majority of our revenue over the past several years. Certainly, the two big areas that always come up are extended reality and automotive. We play into extended reality where you know eye tracking, gesture control, world-facing for capturing the scene. Those are all you know each of those separate uses requires a laser device. That's expected to be a significant opportunity over the next several years. As well, in the auto space where the dollar content is also significantly higher, we can capture perhaps tens of dollars per automobile just at the laser level alone, and that number can be even higher in all solid-state LiDAR approaches, which you know we think will be the long-term winner in many LiDAR applications. I refer you back to I think earlier this year we had a OFC analyst briefing. The slides can be found on our investor relations website, where we highlight the dollar content opportunities in these applications. As well, you know, at that briefing, we highlighted that over the next three years or so, that we were expecting a -5% to +5% CAGR for this business. As you can imagine, given the decline we're expecting this year, that we do expect, you know, no crystal ball here, but a U or a V-shaped type recovery here in that business as these new applications start to ramp up and replace ultimately some of the lost revenue we have seen or expect in this coming year. I highlight, we said, you know, $2 million in the last quarter in automotive LiDAR at the laser chip level. Remember, laser chip level is, you know, much smaller than the modules that they go into. That's a reasonable chunk of market share, if you will, at the laser level. On the oxygen sensor, you know, we're not participating in any, you know, chemical sensors or anything like that. What you may have heard is, as you look to LiDAR as a form of imaging and industrial sensing that can be used in other applications, in industrial settings, and we're investing in R&D to accelerate those kinds of opportunities. Hopefully, that answers your question. Great. It does. Thanks, Chris. Yeah, thanks, Chris. Thank you. Our next question comes from Samik Chatterjee of J.P. Morgan. Samik, your line is now open. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I guess for the first one, if I can revisit the long-term model, and you did reiterate the long-term model today. Just wanted to see if you can give us a sense of sort of the timing that you're thinking in terms of when you get back to the long-term model. The NeoP hotonics synergies that you've called out are $50 million over two years, but that doesn't get you all the way to the long-term model. How should we be thinking? Is it a sort of a three-year plus target to get back to the long-term model? Any help there would be great, and I'll follow up. Thank you. Yeah. You know, Samik, a couple of things. First of all, thanks for the question. In terms of the long-term model, if you take a look at what's happening this year versus where we were last year. You know, last year we ended up with gross margins at a company level above 51%, and operating margins above 30%. You know, as we called out this year, we actually expect our core business without NeoPhotonics to continue to operate within the 50%-30% model at an approximate level, despite the fact that our largest customer is expected to be a 10%-15% customer in fiscal year 2023, and that was primarily, or all of it was a chip-based business, which has higher margins because of the way we service that market. The reason that's happening is because our lasers business and our telecom business and our datacom business are expected to improve in fiscal year 2023, and that's providing us with a lot of tailwind from an operating leverage standpoint over our fixed manufacturing costs. That's one thing that we're expecting to continue into fiscal 2024 and fiscal 2025, is just that natural growth in that business will aid us just like it's helping us in fiscal year 2023. That's the first piece of it that I think we all should appreciate. The second part of it is the Neo synergies that you called out of $50 million, and we had said that we expect it to take us about two years to realize all those synergies through our P&L as we execute against some of the integration work that we're just starting right now, and we'll be providing updates on every single quarter. Then the third piece is the IPG purchase that we just did. Alan, twice talked quite a bit about the DSP investments we're gonna make. Those investments will have a very real benefit as we start shipping our own DSP into our ZR and our ZR+ products. I don't wanna kinda get into the cost of goods sold and BOM cost benefits of having your own vertical integration of DSP, but I'm sure you can appreciate the type of gross margin benefit that we'll have as we start vertically integrating those two products. I think those are the three things that really give us confidence in our ability to move back to the long-term model. Will it take, you know, 24 months or so to kind of realize all of that? Yes, probably. That's how we're thinking about it, and I think that's what's important given that our largest customer is now gonna be a 10%-15% customer versus what it was before. Okay. Got it. That's helpful. For my follow-up, you talked about the vertical integration opportunity with IPG's, the acquisition of the IPG business or the DSP there. How should we think about sort of milestones in terms of what's your expectation in getting the first DSP out? How should we think about sort of the opportunity around vertical integration and maybe more in the longer term, become a merchant supplier of DSPs? How are you thinking about that? Thanks, Samik. This is Chris. I would say a couple things for that. First, maybe hitting the last point first. I mean, our focus is on, you know, internal supply, vertical integration. We see coherent technologies, you know, really proliferating beyond even the use cases we've just mentioned on ZR+ as we start talking about, you know, even opportunities within the data center or at the edge of networks. So that's why we feel this is a very important long-term investment. In terms of a, you know, a timeline or milestones, it's maybe a little too early to set those in stone at this point in that the acquisition just closed yesterday. I would say that, you know, we feel, as we get out into the 2024, 2025 timeframe, that's when we can have, product not just developed but designed into our or incorporated into our modules and, you know, starting to ramp at customers. There's a lot of milestones beyond just developing the chip. There's getting it into our modules and getting customers to change. It's a very exciting development. Also, I think something that, you know, maybe to highlight, it complements the IC capabilities that came over from NeoPhotonics as well, which were largely focused on drivers. When you look at it, then we end up with, you know, the silicon photonics, indium phosphide photonic integrated circuits. We end up high speed drivers for those integrated circuits and now the digital coherent ASICs. It's really coming together, the whole sort of control of both cost, vertical integration in the supply chain, and future transmission modules. Okay, great. Thank you. Thanks a lot, Alan Lowe. Thank you. Thanks, Samik. Thank you. Our next question comes from Rod Hall of Goldman Sachs. Rod, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hey, guys. This is Anmol on for Rod. I think most of the questions are answered, but I wanted to re-ask it and, you know, pick your thoughts about where are we in terms of the ROADM and more broadly the telecom cycle, and what innings do you think, you know, we are in terms of carrier investments? Thank you. Yeah, good question. As we said in the script, you know, there's a lot of leading indicators of our telecom business, one of which is our pump lasers and subsea components that are really the first thing that needs to go into a network in order to start the deployment. Then come ROADMs, and we're seeing, as we said, the advanced ROADMs, high port count, and M x N being 70% of our revenue, our ROADM revenue that is, in Q4, as another leading indicator for telecom growth. You get the transmission products coming on and we believe that we're in the early phases of these new network deployments and there's quite a runway. That's why we're confident not only in the growth rates we're expecting in fiscal 2023, but our expectations to have continued double-digit growth rates into the years beyond 2023. I'd say early stages, product development, and product portfolio is better than it's ever been, and our confidence in the future growth is very, very high. All right, thanks. Just a follow-up on that. How flexible would you think you are in terms of tweaking the operational scale to preserve margins? I mean, should you see a normalization in demand, you know, since the space can be lumpy? That's it from my end. Thanks. Yeah. Well, we haven't seen lumpiness in years, and I think that's really a result of the competitive dynamic being very, very different. That is, you know, when one of our customers designs a new network or a new architecture for a network of their customers and they bet on a M x N, they buy it from us and the dynamic is very, very different. We haven't seen that lumpiness for quite some time. I think as we free up supply of semiconductors, we'll see a smooth ramp up, and that's why we talked about the second half of the fiscal year being stronger than the first half. As those ICs come free, we believe that our ROADM business will really thrive in the second half and continue to grow strongly as a result of, you know, new products and being in the early stages of deployments of these networks. Chris, do you have anything else to add on that? Yeah. I think the only thing I'd add is also, you know, our mix of customers in the networking space has evolved over time as well. You know, this year we have a lot of sales with the cloud customers, cable MSO, wireless operators directly. Our leverage, you know, to specific, you know, carriers or network equipment manufacturers supplying to those carriers has been a bit more diversified as well. I think that adds to, as Alan said, there's a different competitive dynamic, so you're not constantly worried about losing share on a very short-term basis to your competition, which can cause downward in your business. Also, there's a lot more smoothing or averaging out over end network operators that we're now exposed to that should provide a lot more stability than, you know, the last 10 years, if you will. All right. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Ananda Baruah of Loop Capital. Ananda, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Good morning. Lots of exciting stuff going on. Just a quick one if I could. Could you give us a sense of how we should understand the ramping of conversations over time with the hyperscalers with regards to the photonics opportunity? At what point do you believe those conversations can result in I guess in increased revenue scale in the photonics? That's it for me. Thanks a lot. Yeah. I think it's a lot broader than just cloud or cloud operators. I would say, you know, until August third, we were separate businesses, and operating completely separately. You know, at this point we're very focused on getting in with the customers as well as obviously integrating the business and really helping them understand the value proposition of the combined company. We truly believe, whether it's the NeoPhotonics acquisition or the acquisition we announced yesterday, we're talking about smaller, in many ways these days, subscale businesses. That, you know, being part of a larger entity, there's a lot more opportunities. You know, the kind of customers that you mentioned are very much worried about security of supply and the scale of their suppliers, and we think that's something that we can help both of the acquisitions that have closed, solve. Thanks for the question, though. Thanks, Ananda. Chris, do you think? Yeah, thanks. Do you think it'll be a 24 event? Is that unreasonable? I think it does take a little bit of time. I mean, I think there'll be benefits starting from day one, but really where it starts to accelerate given the time to design in and get design wins and how customers allocate share commitments to us and to competitors, yeah, I think it will accelerate through 2024. That's helpful. Thanks a lot, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from Tim Savageaux of Northland Capital Markets. Tim, the line is now open. Please go ahead. Great. Made it in there. The question is also kind of around long-term modeling. Obviously, you got a lot of moving parts this year. At least heading into the year, I think organically you were looking at, you know, talking about double-digit growth rates over, I guess, multiple years. It looks like given what's happening in 3D, you wouldn't have gotten there this year organically. You know, as we look farther out, and especially with an eye towards Chris's comments about a potential V-shape recovery in 3D, is that still a reasonable expectation for the combined company in terms of double digit growth over the medium to long term? Thanks. Yeah. Hi there, Tim. I'll start off and then certainly, Alan and Chris can jump in as well. From a long-term model standpoint, yeah, this year, if you take a look at our standalone business, we're probably growing by 7%-8% because, you know, we probably had more of a step function drop in 3D sensing demand than we were expecting coming into the year, although we've been messaging it for quite some time. You know, as we saw Q1 revenues come in or forecast come in from our customer, we realized very quickly that it is dipping much faster than we expected. That is impacting us. You know, if you take a look at our telecom and datacom business and our lasers business, even without the acquisition of NeoPhotonics, it's expected to grow over 25%, in fiscal 2023 versus fiscal 2022. Certainly, you know, NeoPhotonics, we're also expecting to have the type of tailwinds that will allow that business on a standalone basis to grow into fiscal year 2024, as well. As Chris mentioned, you know, with the combined sales team, we should be able to do better than that as a combined company. You know, with the rest of the business growing into fiscal 2024 at a double-digit growth rate, and then some of the investments that we're expecting in 3D sensing to start paying off, we're certainly comfortable with the outlook on the business that we've provided in the past as it relates to long-term growth. Thanks very much. Thanks, Tim. Our next question comes from Richard Shannon of Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Richard, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I'm just gonna ask one on 3D sensing and specifically the non-phone part of it. Sounds like you're getting some great activity there, Chris, and given that you talked about a three-year timeframe at the OFC presentation earlier this year, I'll ask the question in that context, which is, given the fairly big step down in your big customer here and the dynamics with other non-phone customers, is it reasonable to think about your non-phone 3D sensing or, I don't know, we'll call it imaging or something like that, it being at least as big as the phone market for you within that three-year period of time? I think in terms of the market, probably, and certainly whether it's in Year 3 or Year 4, it's kind of in that timeframe given you know the time to ramp these applications. Certainly I think as you talk about you know three years, four years, five years out, we expect the non-smartphone business to be as large or larger ultimately given the size of those opportunities. I think it's just a question of what year that crosses over. It's probably in that. That's why we think of the -5 to +5, because it's very sensitive to that final year. Certainly in the years three or four, absolutely. Okay, fair enough. That's all for me, Chris. Thank you. Thanks, Richard. Our final question of the day comes from Mike Genovese of Rosenblatt. Mike, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Okay, great. Thanks a lot. First question, just to clarify on the sort of organic non-3D sensing guide, you threw lasers in there expecting over 25% growth, but is that just because it's included with telecom and datacom, or is lasers itself growing that quickly? Yeah. Our lasers itself is growing very rapidly. Year-over-year, was up 59%. We expect that to continue to grow. What we were trying to say was, hey, p utting aside the share normalization, the rest of the business is humming and it's doing quite well, telecom, datacom, and lasers. We expect lasers to produce record levels of revenue in Q1 and continue to grow through the calendar year or through the fiscal year. That was the reason for including them all together. Okay, great. Finally, can I get you to flesh out a little bit more on the DSP strategy? From what I'm hearing here, it sounds like definitely you plan to make ZR, ZR+ modules with an internal DSP. Do you then expect to have your own DSP and other kinds of transmission modules as well? Or should we think it would just be limited to, you know, focused only on ZR? No, I think you can think of it as being, ZR being the first step. Given that we announced the deal 25 hours ago, we're still trying to determine, you know, do we need to shift the roadmap from the existing roadmap? Do we need to add resources or add spending, or what is the one after that? I'd say that it's still early days, but, we're not into the DSP business for one DSP. We're making this investment and acquisition, for the long term. I think, you know, it'll position us quite well, especially as you put together the NeoPhotonics product and technology, IPG product and technology, and then what Lumentum had. I think together it really puts us in a solid position for vertical integration and coherent components and modules. Great. Thanks, Alan. Congratulations on the deals and all the exciting stuff you have ahead. Great. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Michael. Hey, Charlie, I think that's all the questions that we have. I'd like to pass the call back over to Alan for some concluding remarks. Great. Thank you, Kathy, and thank you, Charlie. I'd like to leave you with a few thoughts as we wrap up this call. We have significantly improved our access to third-party ICs and have increased our manufacturing capacity to support the ongoing demand strength. Our fourth quarter results and first quarter guidance certainly reflect this strength across our telecom, datacom, and commercial lasers business. I'm also very excited about our acquisition of NeoPhotonics and the purchase of the telecom transmission product lines from IPG and the breadth of the products and capabilities that we can now offer to our customers. Together, we have a broad portfolio of best-in-class products and technologies. We are committed to strongly invest in innovation and manufacturing capability to deliver on customer needs today and in the future. With that, I would like to thank everyone for attending, and we look forward to talking with you again during upcoming investor events, which you will find posted on our website. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you so much for joining. 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