Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Ternium second quarter 2021 results conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Now, to ask a question during this time, you will need to press star one on your telephone keypad. Also, please be advised that this conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star zero. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Sebastián Martí. Thank you. Please go ahead, sir. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. My name is Sebastián Martí, and I am Ternium's Investor Relations and Compliance Director. Ternium released yesterday its financial results for the second quarter of 2021. This call is complementary to that presentation. Joining me today are Ternium's Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Pablo Brizzio, and Ternium's Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Máximo Vedoya, who will discuss Ternium's business environment and performance. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, there will be a Q&A session. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking information, and the actual results may vary from those expressed or implied. Factors that could affect the results are contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and on page two in today's webcast presentation. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mr. Máximo Vedoya. Thank you, Sebastian. Good morning, and thanks all for your participation in today's call. Ternium reported remarkable results in the second quarter of the year. We had record quarterly sales, margins, EBITDA, and net income. Looking ahead, I believe the current strong global steel market environment should continue to support a solid financial performance over the rest of the year. Steel prices in our region increased steadily to high levels over the last 12 months, with strong steel demand and low inventories in the value chain. Prices are probably going to begin a downtrend at some point during the second half, but I don't expect this to be a very profound downtrend. The main reason for this positive view are a steel demand that remains strong, constraining the supply chain, news from China withdrawing export rebates with the objective of limiting steel production, and from Russia with taxes on steel export. In this encouraging environment, we successfully started up our new hot rolling mill at Pesquería on May 15th, a month in advance of our previous estimations. We are very pleased with this achievement and with the ramp-up of the line, which is also doing better than anticipated. As a result of this, we currently expect this new facility to enable us to increase our market offering of high-quality steel products by approximately 600,000 tons during the second half of the year from the 400,000 tons I mentioned on our last conference call. All of this should result in a subsequently higher EBITDA level in the third quarter of 2021. On the balance sheet side, in the second quarter, we continued to show significant cash generation, and we kept a very low level of net debt even after paying out our yearly dividend in May. Let me go over our main markets now. In Mexico, the driver behind our sales growth expectations for the second half of the year is the industrial market. Steel demand in this market is very strong. Manufacturing industries like HVAC, electrical motors, and household appliances are having record end-user demand and significant backlogs, greatly increasing, in turn, their steel consumption. The auto industry in Mexico is also having strong end-user demand, but it continued to be affected by the semiconductor supply chain disruption, a situation we expect should gradually subside over the following quarters. In addition, we are seeing an increase in investment announcements in Mexico from these manufacturing industries. As our new hot rolling mill in Mexico is geared towards the industrial market's product needs, the ramp-up of this facility is going to help us increase even more our participation in this market over time. The commercial market in Mexico, more related to construction activity, is currently not as strong as the industrial one, with no significant growth in infrastructure investment and softer demand from retail construction. In Argentina, we expect shipments to remain relatively steady in the third quarter after a strong second quarter of the year. In this market, we are seeing sustained domestic demand from building materials and higher activity levels in some industrial sectors, such as automotive and agribusiness. On the other hand, the macroeconomic environment in the country continued to be unstable. In November, there are midterm elections in Argentina, which could introduce a higher level of uncertainty in the market. Turning now to the other market regions, as anticipated in our previous conference call, we continue to integrate our slab mill in Brazil with our facilities in Mexico and Argentina. This resulted in a lower volume of slabs sold to third party in the quarter, offsetting the higher shipments of finished products sold in Mexico and the southern region. You can expect to see the participation of slabs in our sales mix continue to decrease in the third quarter. One reason for this is that during the second quarter, the long-term slab supply contract we had with ArcelorMittal's Alabama facility expired. This was timed to concur with the startup of our new hot rolling mill in Mexico, which is now requiring an increasing volume of slab during the ramp-up. Before finishing my remarks, it is worth mention that the COVID-19 Delta variant, which is affecting the northern hemisphere now, is not widespread in South America, so we have yet to see its impact in our market over the following months. Vaccination programs in the region have improved significantly over the last months, although the percentage of the population with full vaccination is not yet as high as it is in Europe or the U.S. There continues to be a risk of further lockdowns or disruption in the value chain if the sanitary situation worsens. I would like to call your attention to the publication of Ternium's last sustainability report. We issued it in June, and I encourage you to review it. It shows our progress towards achieving our objectives in a sustainable way, describing the actions taken to achieve our goal in six areas: safety, environment and decarbonization, people, community, value chain, and business strategy. Concluding, we expect to continue showing a strong performance over the following quarters as favorable global steel industry fundamentals should support historically high steel prices, even if they begin to soften at some point during the remainder of the year. With this, Pablo, please go ahead with the webcast presentation of our performance during this second quarter. Thanks, Máximo, good morning to everybody. Ternium's performance in the first half of the year has certainly been remarkable, which reflects the prevailing conditions prevailing in the steel market that Máximo has just described. We will see now how this condition drove the company to a new record level of profitability and results in the second quarter after a very strong performance in the first quarter of the year. Let's start by reviewing the EBITDA and net earnings on page three in the webcast presentation. The EBITDA in the second quarter of the year reached $1.4 billion on the EBITDA margin of 36% or $463 per ton. A new record high. These margin levels are higher than those of most of our peers, probably at the world level. Although these out-of-the-ordinary margins are not going to be sustained over the cycle, I wanted to point out there is something that distinguishes Ternium among its peers, is consistently higher margins, and it does so over the cycle. Net income in the period reached $1.2 billion or $5.21 per ADS. Looking out to the third quarter, we expect to achieve new record EBITDA with higher margins and volumes, and we will analyze this in more details later on. Let's turn now to page four to review steel shipments. When we compare volumes on a year-over-year basis, we see a significant recovery in Mexico and the southern region in the second quarter of this year. As you know, last year, the second quarter activity levels were deeply affected by the COVID-19 outbreak. On a sequential basis, shipments in Mexico and the southern region increased 2% in the second quarter of the year, remaining at elevated levels in a scenario of strong steel demand in Ternium's main markets. Looking forward, considering the strong demand for Ternium steel products in the USMCA region and the ramp-up of the new hot rolling mill in Pesquería, we believe our shipments in Mexico should increase by a total of approximately 600,000 tons, as Máximo already mentioned. In the other market region, you can see that the volume of slabs shipped to third party in low grade continue to decrease quarter after quarter. This reduction reflects the increased integration of Ternium slab facility in Brazil with the company's industrial systems. We expect this integration trend to remain in the third quarter. As a result, we expect a further reduction of slab volume ships to third parties. Okay, now on the next page, as you can see, combining this development, we are glad to consolidate the total shipments of 3.1 million tons in the second quarter of the year, relatively stable sequentially and 25% higher on a year-over-year basis. Moving on to steel prices, Ternium revenue per ton in the second quarter increased sequentially and on a year-over-year basis. This, together with the lagged reset of contract prices in Mexico, anticipates a further increase in Ternium's realized price in the third quarter. Turning now to the net sales in the bottom left chart, the combination of a higher realized price and stable shipments resulted in a 21% sequential increase in net sales in the second quarter to $3.9 billion. Compared to the second quarter of last year, net sales in the second quarter more than doubled. Let's now review on page six the main drivers behind the sequential increase in EBITDA and net income in the second quarter. The chart on the top shows that EBITDA mainly increased as a result of higher realized price, which were partially offset by higher cost per ton, mainly on higher raw material and purchased slab prices, and higher maintenance expenses. As I mentioned at the start of this presentation, I expect a new sequential increase in EBITDA in the third quarter, reflecting the expected increases in shipments and revenue per ton, partially offset by higher cost per ton, as the increase in the purchase price of raw material and slab continues to flow through the company's inventories. The chart below shows that the sequential increase in net income in the second quarter was mostly due to higher operating income. In addition, results from our operation in Usiminas improved. On the following page, we can see the same changes but for the first six months of the year. In both charts, the drivers of the increase of our EBITDA and net income were the same as we have just already described for the second quarter. To finish the presentation, let me turn now to page eight to review our quarterly cash flow and balance sheet performance. Cash from operations in the second quarter of this year was $628 million, even after a significant anticipated increase in working capital. In the third quarter, we expect further increase in working capital, reflecting the expected increase in realized steel prices and higher costs, as previously discussed. Regarding free cash flow, the company generated $467 million after capital expenditure of $161 million in the quarter. This enabled Ternium to slightly reduce net debt after paying a $2.10 annual dividend in May for a total amount of $412 million. Net debt stands at just $0.2 billion at the end of June, equivalent to 0.1 x net debt to last 12 months' EBITDA. With that, I am concluding my prepared remarks. Thank you very much for your time and attention, and now we are ready to take any questions you may have. Please, operator, proceed with the Q&A session. Certainly. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask your questions, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Again, that's star one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Caio Greiner from BTG Pactual. Your line is open. Hi. Thank you. Good afternoon. My first question on capital allocation, this is probably the main question surrounding the investment case nowadays. The company is moving to net cash maybe in a matter of weeks, and we just wanted to understand how does Ternium see the growth versus dividends equation today? Because, on one hand, the company is still ramping up Pesqueria, so we're not sure if you would be willing to kick off another project in the meantime. If you are, what do you think you're most likely to invest in over the coming years? Would you see M&A as a feasible option, or would you rather to go with organic growth? Where are the company's priorities on that? If that would be investing where you currently operate or maybe thinking about geographical diversification. I do remember that some time ago, we were speaking of, or there were some talks of building an EAF in Mexico, an electric furnace in Mexico. Is that still the case, or is that still the priority for the company? If the company is not willing to kick off another project at the same time where you ramp up Pesqueria, could we see Ternium paying extraordinary dividends already in the second half? Maybe could we be closer to seeing an official dividend policy being approved, maybe based on free cash flow generation? That's my first question. My second question, really quick on EBITDA per ton. Ternium delivered EBITDA per ton levels above $400 per ton in the second quarter. That could be potentially above $500 per ton in the third quarter. I just wanted to quickly understand, where do you see EBITDA normalizing ahead? I do remember that a few quarters ago, you were speaking of EBITDA probably normalizing or having seen EBITDA margins normalizing at the 15%-20% range. I just wanted to understand if you now see reasons to believe the long-term margins could be sustained above those levels. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Caio. I will take the first question, and then Pablo will probably answer the second one. The first question about there's a lot of things in the first question. The capital allocation, the organic growth, the geographical diversification. Let me try to make a summary of what our thoughts are and try to answer this question, Caio. You're right, we have a significant, strong balance sheet, and we are going to be probably net negative in next quarter. That's true. This year we are investing a CapEx of $600 million. You already know that, considering all the approved projects. We invest in working capital around $1.3 billion in the first half. We are continuing going to invest in this in the third quarter, probably half of what we did in the second quarter. That's around a little bit more of $300 million. We pay the dividend of $412 million in May. Let's remind that this was the highest dividend in Ternium's history. It was almost doubling the highest dividend that we paid before this. Looking forward to 2022 and onwards, regarding dividends, I believe that you know the dividends is approved or proposed by the board in February. We always do that, and we pay dividends once a year. Looking forward, I think that this new level of dividends, at least this new level can be sustained into the future. As I said at the conference, we are optimistic that the current steel business environment will provide Ternium with this opportunity. Extraordinary dividends, again, this is something that the board of directors should propose. Having in mind this, I can't rule out an extraordinary dividend, as you said. It's not something that we have today, again, but I'm not ruling that out. CapEx. Clearly, our opportunities. We are not doing an opportunity of a geographical diversification. We are concentrated in the Americas. We don't see an investment of ours far away or in other regions that are not the American Continent. That's for sure. Again, we are analyzing different projects to grow our business. Today, we are analyzing organic growth. The ramp-up of this new hot-rolled mill in Mexico, which is a huge issue for us, is going to help probably to increase even more our participation in the general market, as I said. It will open probably new investment opportunity for the downstream capacity in the region. As you mentioned also, and as I mentioned it in the past, USMCA's stricter rules of origin will require us to expand our upstream capacity in the region at some point down the road. All of those are projects that we are analyzing. I hope that with this, I cover everything in your first question, Caio. Okay, Máximo, let me take the second part of Caio's question. Hi, Caio, how are you? You're right that the margin or the EBITDA per ton that we generate in the second quarter of over $450 per ton, and with the perspective and the comments both Máximo and myself made, are pointing out for a little higher EBITDA per ton into the third quarter of the year. It's important to mention that, also as with the view that the company has expressed by Máximo, is that we are not expecting to see a significant or an abrupt reduction in prices in the coming quarters after the next one. Even though it's not reasonable to believe that we will sustain this level of EBITDA per ton or EBITDA margin, we are not expecting also to see a significant reduction on these numbers. On the long run, we continue to work, as we have been always work, it's also something that we mentioned in the opening remarks, that the goal of the company is to continue to achieve not only very high levels of EBITDA margins and EBITDA per ton, but to keep and sustain the feature Ternium has, which is to outperform our peers in any part of the cycle. In the upper side or on the lower part of the cycle, we have been always able to achieve that. This is something that we work very hard to continue to have. At this point, probably it will be easy to say that the margin of the range between 15%-20% is something that we can easily overpass. In a more normal market environment, this is something that we continue to sustain, always working to be not only the upper side of the range or even higher than that. Every investment that we make, especially the new mill and everything that we are analyzing, is toward this role. We sustain, clearly, probably in the next year, being closer to 20% is something that is probably easy to achieve. This is something that we will sustain, and clearly, we will work to increase as fast, as much as we can with the performance of the company. Thank you very much, gentlemen. You're welcome. Your next question comes from the line of Carlos de Alba from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Yeah, hello. Good morning, gentlemen. Hopefully you're doing fine. A couple of questions, if I may. Máximo Vedoya, when you said the 600,000 tons increase, are you talking about overall volume, or are you talking about just the percentage of value-added volumes in the company's overall shipment? Second, if you could give us a little bit of an idea of how much slab from Brazil you expect to sell to Ternium Mexico, so internally, and how much to external customers in the coming quarters, that would be great. Okay. Thank you, Carlos, and thanks for asking. We are doing fine. I hope all you too. The 600,000 tons, if you remember in our last conference call, I told that in the second quarter, in the second half of the year, the hot-strip mill is going to increase 400,000 tons our overall sales. That's what's coming net from the new facility. Because of the ramp-up curve, we have updated this to 600,000 tons. It's how much volume from the new facility we are putting in the market. The second part, if I remember, the slabs. Yeah. Okay. The slabs in the third quarter is going to be around between 800,000 and 900,000 tons, the quarter to Mexico. To third parties, probably it's going to be around 300,000-400,000 tons. It's going to be in that range. It's going to be decreasing from, I think, what? The 700,000 tons or no, a little bit less of what we do in the second quarter. All right. Fair enough. Then just final question. Yeah Talk about potentially needing to invest in the steelmaking capacity in order to comply with the USMCA rules, would you consider the U.S., Canada, or only Mexico? That's a very specific question, Carlos. I think that we are analyzing, as I said, we don't have any announcement to make. What we have to do is part of that is doing it in Mexico. Our hot-strip mill is there, and our customers are probably there, so it makes sense to make at least a part of that in Mexico. This is not an announcement. It's something we are analyzing. The USMCA rule of origins are for the automotive industry, and they're going to start in 2027. We have time to analyze all the alternatives, and that's what we are doing, Carlos. Yeah. Fair enough. This is all hypothetical at this point in time. On this basis, on this hypothetical basis, and considering the fact on the one hand that you have iron ore pellets and DRI in Mexico, and that there are enormous pressures to reduce carbon emissions in the steel-making process. Is it fair to say that an EAF might be a better option for you guys than a blast furnace integrated facility? No, that's for sure. We are not analyzing a blast furnace. That I can tell you. Fair enough. Thank you very much. All the best. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Andreas Bokkenheuser from UBS. Your line is open. Thank you very much. I hope you're all safe and well. Couple of quick questions on demand and exports pertaining to your strategy for Pesqueria. Just firstly on demand, I think you mentioned that Mexican domestic demand for flat steel has been quite strong, it's been solid. We've been getting an increasing amount of reports suggesting that demand is actually on the weaker side in Mexico. I'm just trying to get a sense of what's happening there, because of course, you could be capturing market share, either from domestic players or imports. Could you talk a little bit about that? Do you see yourself capturing market share? Is that why you're seeing strong domestic demand, or are you actually seeing end demand pretty strong in Mexico at the moment, despite the high price? That is my first question. Thank you, Andreas. I'll take that one. We are seeing both, to be honest. The demand is increasing in Mexico compared to last year. It's not increasing as much as it is increasing in Brazil or in the U.S., where apparent consumption is increasing more. Mexico is going to close at around a little bit more of 10% steel consumption increase in 2021 compared to 2020. Demand is increasing. What you are also right is that it's very different between the markets. The industrial market, which we are very much invested in that market, it's very strong. The commercial side, with the commercial part of the flat products and the long products, it's decreasing or it's not improving as much as the flat industrial part of the business. There is a little bit of both, and clearly, we are gaining some market share against imports. That makes sense. Maybe a quick follow-up there. You mentioned obviously. Yeah from last year. I don't know if you have the numbers in front of you. Do you have a sense of where we are this year versus pre-COVID in 2019, where demand sits? It's almost the same. I don't have the exact number, but I think last year, the apparent consumption decreased around 8%-9%, and we are seeing an increase this year of around 10%, probably a little bit more, but I want to be on the cautious side here. It's almost the same, 2019 to 2021. A little bit more, but almost the same. Okay. With difference, Andreas. Flat industrial products, the demand is much higher than 2019. Construction products, so commercial side, it's lower. They are different in the market size of. Yeah, that's clear. Different on the product mix in terms of demand. That's very clear. Exactly. Just my second question, just as you basically ramp up Pesquería, how are you envisioning and I know it might not be an easy question to answer. Sure. How are you envisioning where those shipments will go? We've obviously seen the U.S. steel price going up a lot, which seems to be more supply driven than demand driven, with a lot of capacity having been shut down in the U.S. Does that mean that you see yourself exporting more than you proportionally have before from Pesquería into the U.S.? Or do you see yourself more capturing market share from imports coming into Mexico from the U.S.? Where do you see those Pesquería shipments going? Andreas, that's a very good question. I am not sure if I agree with you that the price is more supply-driven than demand-driven, to be honest. I agree that there are some restrictions and some capacity that's down. To be honest, today, the utilization in the U.S. is at pre-COVID levels. Mexico is probably producing more. North America is not producing less than pre-COVID levels today in the past. Again, we are seeing an increase in demand. The U.S. probably, demand in the U.S. is going to probably go up this year for more than 15%. Still 6 months to go, but it's a huge number. We are seeing some demand- driven issues. Again, we are also seeing that this reshoring, which clearly, it's going to take time, it's happening. We are seeing investments in a huge range of different industries that consume steel, driven probably by USMCA, driven by the fact that supply chains are getting more difficult, driven by a lot of things. People are investing in the USMCA. Demand is going to increase. Remember that the imports of steel are very important in the region, but imports of indirect steel, imports from final products that consume a lot of steel, are much bigger than imports from steel. We are seeing a trend that this is changing. It's going to take time, but this is changing. I think that our new facility comes just in the right moment for this. Again, for us, where is the volume going? It's going to go mainly to Mexico. It's going to go mainly to substitute imports and new demand coming from these investments. Some part can be exported for the U.S. Mainly, it's going to be for Mexico and the increase in demand, and again, imports. We see a lot of space there. Okay, that's very clear. I would probably just make the argument on the demand side for flat steel in the U.S. that if we look at the two dominant drivers of flat steel in the U.S. being autos and energy, I think those account for about 80% of flat steel demand in the U.S. We know that auto production is down because of the semiconductors. We know that energy is down because the rig count is down almost 50%. If we put that together, it looks like demand is still lower than it was 2019, pre-COVID-19 in the U.S. It looks like steel production is up because imports are down quite considerably. I guess that's the basis of my question. We're right now seeing HRC. No. $1,500, which is $400 a ton below the current spot price. I think I agree with you that we're going to see some weakness, but it's probably not going to be significant weakness in the short term. Yeah. Again, you're right about some part. Demand in oil and gas clearly is not going to return, I don't think it's going to return to pre, I don't know, what, 2017 or 2018. Again, on a general, demand is increasing. Apparent consumption is going to increase 15%. 2021 is going to consume more steel than 2019 in the U.S., according to our numbers. This is a huge issue. Again, of course, you're right, imports, we are more aggressive against imports, and most of the U.S. producers also. It's a combination, I think of both. That's a good point. I don't want to monopolize the Q&A session. Maybe one final follow-up. Don't worry. Do you think that continues into 2022? We're obviously seeing a lot of pent-up demand in 2021 from demand that was lost in 2020. What got lost in 2020 got pushed into 2021. Does that continue into 2022 in your analysis, in your estimates? Do you think we're going to see more demand growth in 2022 versus 2021, or does that stabilize? Do you have any estimates? No, I think yes. If you look to the prospect or what we are thinking about the GDP increase in the U.S., in Mexico, even Canada, in 2022, not only 2021, there are huge increases. Again, the market is very good economic point of view. I think demand is going to continue increasing. I think exports are going to continue, they are cyclical, so they're going to increase a little bit by the end of the year, most likely in the U.S. As a whole trend, imports are going to continue decreasing in the North American region. The things that Russia and China is doing, those are signals that overcapacity in those part of the world, they are trying to finally do something about that. The signal that China is canceling all the export rebates and probably thinking about putting an export tax, it's a huge issue, which is going to help all of this. That's very clear. I appreciate your insights on this and not taking more than my fair share of the Q&A session. Thank you very much. I'll pass it over. Okay. Thank you, Andreas. Your next question comes from the line of Caio Ribeiro from Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Yeah. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for the opportunity. My first question is on the infrastructure package in the U.S. There is a lot more visibility on the different components now, and a few companies have already provided their estimates on the demand that it could generate for steel throughout its duration. I just wanted to ask if you already have an estimate on that, on what kind of demand generation this package could generate for you and the market as a whole. Secondly, on flat steel prices in the U.S., I just wanted to get your perspective on what the supply additions that are expected for 2022 could generate for pricing momentum. We estimate that these supply additions, they could add up to 4 million or 5 million tons of additional capacity in 2022. I just wanted to see how you think that will impact pricing momentum. Do you think the market could become oversupplied with these supply additions, or do you see demand growth more than absorbing it? Thank you. Thank you, Caio. The first question about infrastructure in the U.S., to be honest, I don't have a different estimate than what the steel industry has said in the U.S. They clearly know more than I do, so I'm not going to change that number. Our main issue here is, we are not seeing a lot of, or we are not participating a lot in that market, to be honest. Clearly, it's going to be very good for us because, as you know, some of the U.S. steel producer exports to Mexico, and we compete with them, and this is something that is going to affect their ability to supply to Mexico. For us, it's very good, although we are not expecting to ship a lot to the U.S. to these projects. Second thing is prices and the increased capacity that is coming, you're right, it's around 5 million tons of flat capacity. I don't see this as a huge driver of oversupply or prices coming down because of this. As you know, imports in North America are much higher than 5 million-6 million tons. In the U.S. they are more than 10 million tons. In Mexico, there are around 2 million-4 million tons, depending if you put the galvanized products also. There's a huge amount of imports coming to the region, which this extra capacity is much lower than that. Second, as I told before, I think demand is growing faster than what we thought. I think it's going to most likely be absorbed. With that saying that, again, all the capacity, not only ours, but the other coming, is a very competitive capacity. At the end, probably if the market doesn't react or the demand shows sign of slowing down, those are not the mills that are closing some of that capacity. Probably some old capacity will close. I'm not seeing that right now. Perfect. That's very clear. Thank you, Máximo. You're welcome. Your next question comes from the line of Thiago Lofiego. Your line is open. Thank you. Máximo, two questions. One, back to the pricing discussion that you had with Andreas. Just more of a theoretical maybe question here. What in your view would be the drivers for steel prices to trade at a new normal, and that new normal being a higher level versus the old normal, right? I think you already mentioned a bit of the changes that you're seeing, and we are seeing as well, right? China is changing the way it is acting in the global market, potentially exporting less. How would you defend a higher for longer pricing scenario for steel? Even if we see steel price in the U.S. dropping, let's say 50%, still going to be $1,000 per ton, right? That's way above normal levels. How would you defend the higher for longer scenario? The second question, just to confirm, you mentioned the new level of slab shipments to third parties of 300,000-400,000 tons per quarter. Is that after the Pesqueria HRC mill is fully ramped up, or that's in the near term? Just to understand what the new normal level will be after the full ramp-up of the Pesqueria mill, the HRC mill. Thank you. Perfect. Thank you, Thiago. I start with the second, which is a little bit more easier, and then I go to the pricing question, if you don't mind. Yes, I think that 300,000 tons, 400,000 tons should be a new normal for the facility in Brazil to ship to third parties. Most of those third parties will probably be sales in Brazil, to Usiminas or CSN, as we are doing today. That doesn't mean the new rolling mill in Pesquería is going to produce more. It's going to reach out some point the 4 million tons a year. We are going to buy more slab from third party. We are going to sell to the Brazilian market some slabs, and we are going to buy more slabs from third party for the Pesquería. That's how we are foreseeing this. Of course, if market change, that could change also. Regarding the pricing discussion, I think you're right that there's going to be a new level or a new normal for steel prices. I don't want to put a number, as you said, which seems very logical number. What are those drivers? I think the first one is that there are two drivers. One is overcapacity, for sure. I don't see much investment in capacity in China or other parts of the world right now, from various reasons. One of those is decarbonization. The targets that we are putting, or the steel industry, or the governments are putting to the steel industry are very aggressive. It should have enormous amount of investment if you want to invest in new capacity and replace some of the old capacity. Some part are going to be investment, but some old capacity is going to stay idle, and it's going to stay idle forever because of these trends. The second one, probably demand. Demand in the region, and now I'm talking specific of the North American region, is going to continue increasing for the things I said. There's also the thing of raw material. More and more, we are going to depend on scrap, and prices of raw material are going to be a little bit more higher probably. Those trends are things that I see as a trend, that prices are going to be at a new normal in the future. I don't want to put a number of that new normal, but they are going to be higher. Okay. Very clear. Agree with you, Máximo. Thank you. Thank you, Thiago. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Alfonso Salazar. Your line is open. Yes. Thank you. Hello, Máximo and Pablo. I have two questions. The first one is related to what you just mentioned that you are not analyzing a blast furnace at this point in time. The question was more related to your plans for the mining operation in Mexico, and if you can give us some update on what's the situation there, your plans. Also, we hear a lot about violence in the region of Michoacán, and where the mine is located. If you can give an update on that as well. The second is regarding the South American operations. If China is implementing these more strict export regulations and they become eventually a net importer of steel, what are the implications for South America, especially for your operations there? Because apparently, that could make a stronger investment case in some countries. I just want to hear your thoughts on that. Thank you, Alfonso. The update of the mining operation in Mexico are producing at full capacity. As you know, most of what we produce of pellet goes to our own facility, although we are exporting or selling to third party some of the extra we have, but it's not a huge volume. We expect that this will continue working as it is. To be honest, I know your question about violence in Michoacan and other parts of the south of Mexico, we are not seeing any of that in our region. Although one of our mining operations is in Michoacan, it's very near the Colima border, so this is far away from the things you read in the news. South American operation and China, I think the first benefit from this is, remember, China is the first importer, for example, in Brazil. As you know, the imports in Brazil are increasing, and most of them are coming today from China. I think the benefit of this new policy is changing as the industry, the steel industry there are going to ship more to the market and can increase their market share because of this new policy of China. I don't see yet a business case to increase steel capacity in Brazil, for example, for exports to China, to be honest. I don't see today that case. I think that Brazil is going to, or steel mills or our operations in Brazil, have to be more focused on the Brazilian market and some exports to some regional countries. What about marginal expansions or smaller expansions in other countries like Colombia? Do you see an investment case for that? We are not analyzing that. As you know, in Colombia, we are ramping up the new facility in Barranquilla. Today we don't have a project in the near future to ramp it up. Again, there are things that we are analyzing if this trend changes, and there is a case for making a new investment in Colombia. Today, we don't have that in mind yet. Fair enough. Thank you very much, Máximo. You're welcome, Alfonso. Again, for anyone else who wants to ask questions, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. There are no more questions at this time. Turning the call back over to Mr. Máximo Vedoya. Okay. Thank you all very much for participating today in our conference call, and for your question. Please keep in touch and contact us if you have any comments or additional question. Again, thank you very much. Have a nice day. Please stay safe. Thanks a lot. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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